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Hs2 Or No Hs2
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//He said it was "responsible" to see whether the benefits really "stack up". //
Whether the benefits really "stack up". ? -We were told that this project was the best thing since slice bread
So after billions have been spent on this project - 'we' are now not sure it would produce the goods and all that tax payers money could go down the drain
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I have been continually surprised that over the past three-plus years very little (if anything) has been made of HS2 being part of an EU project to enable high speed train travel the length and breadth of the EU.
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In an independent UK (without the need of the grand plan of High Speed Europe) HS2 is utterly meaningless. Better to cut our losses now than plough on.
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In an independent UK (without the need of the grand plan of High Speed Europe) HS2 is utterly meaningless. Better to cut our losses now than plough on.
//(services run on parallel line almost empty much of the day)//
not so Davebro. on the west coast line, trains are full and standing all day, every day. there are now no more train paths available south of Stafford, and certainly no wiggle room to take any more freight services. the last upgrade of the west coast route was meant to be future proofed but all the spare capacity has gone - this is notwithstanding the railway equivalent of "smart motorways" (lengthening the pendolinos and allowing the slow trains to run at 110mph), initiatives that produced capacity that is itself now all gone.
the suggestion is another upgrade. but, er, how? in any case if it proved to be doable, (for instance lengthening the platforms at Liverpool Lime Street would require major engineering because of the tunnels at the platform ends) it'll leave rail travellers with 10-20 years of disruption, with weekend shutdowns and regular 4-6 week blockades (Bertie the bus - deep joy).
the only other option is allow 80T trucks on the road. the economics of railfreight are on such a knife edge that such a move would kill it overnight; that would provide some capacity on the network but without freight trains, growth must necessarily then fall back on the roads. would that be an environmental price worth paying?
not so Davebro. on the west coast line, trains are full and standing all day, every day. there are now no more train paths available south of Stafford, and certainly no wiggle room to take any more freight services. the last upgrade of the west coast route was meant to be future proofed but all the spare capacity has gone - this is notwithstanding the railway equivalent of "smart motorways" (lengthening the pendolinos and allowing the slow trains to run at 110mph), initiatives that produced capacity that is itself now all gone.
the suggestion is another upgrade. but, er, how? in any case if it proved to be doable, (for instance lengthening the platforms at Liverpool Lime Street would require major engineering because of the tunnels at the platform ends) it'll leave rail travellers with 10-20 years of disruption, with weekend shutdowns and regular 4-6 week blockades (Bertie the bus - deep joy).
the only other option is allow 80T trucks on the road. the economics of railfreight are on such a knife edge that such a move would kill it overnight; that would provide some capacity on the network but without freight trains, growth must necessarily then fall back on the roads. would that be an environmental price worth paying?
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