Labour Deputy Tom Watson Calls For Referendum Ahead Of Election

[mushroom25]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49657006

he may be right, an election may not solve anything. but it will take 6 months to set up and hold a referendum. is leaving the country without an effective government for 6 months desirable or workable?

[Old_Geezer]

Of course another referendum on the same issue is a repeat of the first. No one can be so naive to not realise it is, I don't know why remainers continue to claim it wouldn't be based on some irrelevant change.

[ichkeria]

It would be a different question, with something concrete to vote on, as it should have been in the first place.
It would make no sense at all to rerun the original referendum.
The only person I think I have heard suggesting that is Nigel Farage.

[mushroom25]

// who [mr Corbyn] told the TUC conference on Tuesday that if he won the next election, it would offer a referendum with a "credible Leave option" - negotiated by Labour - versus Remain. //

which would of course require Labour to declare their definition of "credible", without which the vote would be meaningless. oh wait, isn't that the idea?

[Old_Geezer]

Differently worded question resulting in the same thing. Concrete proposals are not relevant as the original vote included all methods to leave. Trying to split the verdict of the referendum with different options in the hope that only a leave one is left, fools no one.

[Old_Geezer]

Remainer parties and MPs haven't any idea what a credible option would be. May was a remainer and felt bending over backwards to agree to EU demands was a credible option. No one in the opposition are going to come up with a better option than no-deal, nor would they progress to end the uncertainty before our Halloween deadline. They are an unelectable rabble while this issue isn't progressed.

[ichkeria]

Labour still says it wants to do a new deal. In reality as I think someone suggested elsewhere (I know I did) it would be easier for Labour to change bits as they would presumably be related to the political relationship and the backstop would no longer be an issue as presumably they’d not not be in hock either to the DUP or ERG.
So it would not be a new deal but one amended in ways that currently are not politically possible.
In all this tho the EU still needs to be convinced that parliament, any parliament, at Westminster, would agree to it or at least be somewhere likely to.