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Jackdaw33 | 06:56 Sun 15th Sep 2019 | News
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I’ve always been very anti-Cameron (and anti-Tory in general). I read an interview in The Times yesterday about him and his new book. I almost felt sorry for him. He seemed very regretful about the chaos he caused.
He’s right about Boris and Gove.

Can't stand the man. Others will lap this up.
Re. Turkey (who were never going to join) I've seen videos of Cameron telling Turkish audiences it was a question of when not if they joined and what a jolly good thing that was.
He is another inveterate liar.
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His book should be remaindered and pulped. Who would waste good money on such garbage? To call a former colleague a ' fully-flecked foaming Faragist' is beyond the pale in my book.
Yes as I said before comment is cheap here.
He messed up, but the crude nonsense spouted here does no one any credit.
Let’s all jump up and down with our fingers in our ears - very grown up.
The interesting thing for me in that cloverjo was that he plainly had no idea that so many Tories who he knew to be Eurosceptic actually came out as fully fledged leavers.
But that is the consequence of calling a referendum: you force or at least encourage people to take sides.
Also not seeing that talking up his promise about what he could get out of the EU talks was bound to lead to disappointment. That seemed obvious at the time. When he came back from those talks with his “deal” there was a 7% lead for leave.
But it was the same for Mrs May: the result of the negotiations with the EU were also her downfall as reality bit.
He failed - failed to back Leave when he said he would if he didn't get EU reforms & failed to stay and see through the Brexit process.

If had done those two things the Leave vote would have been higher & we would already be out of the EU with a satisfactory deal.
Remain are sinking to hit pieces on Boris (and any other leaver who matter very soon I should think) because they Know they are losing the fright to remain. The last vestiges of hope is to discredit your opponent.

Expect the big guns out to shock and awe with tails of all manner of indiscreet stories of wrong doing. They think people are too stupid to not realise they are doing it for political reasons.

He was very nice when he let on to me near Birdcage Walk!
The deal Cameron structure with the EU was actually rather a good one, exempting us from much of the political union aspects of the EU.
Unfortunately there was also talk of stopping benefits for foreign workers etc and doing stuff that would have violated the single market. He was never going to get that.
And if course as was so predictable, the deal was completely overlooked in the campaign. I hardly heard it mentioned: it was what the referendum was supposed to confirm.
Yeah, but, like, isn't this something we all kind of knew already?
" He is Another inveterate Liar" Of course he is , he went to the same school as Boris.
Johnson wrote a Daily Telegraph column in 2016 supporting Cameron and Remain. Then he switched sides and ditched his first draft, and submitted his final article (which was published), supporting Leave.

The charge that Johnson changed his opinion on the EU to further his own career, is supported by the facts.
He's a Tory. Let's face it, nasty, bitter and twisted goes with that title.


I'd never tire of slapping his smug face, what a nasty creep he is and the timing of this book rubber stamps that
Just another snob, not got a clue, or even care how the other half live, and just another snob feathering his own nest, as all the others have done in the past.
// the timing of this book rubber stamps that //

The timing in that it coincides with Johnson’s Proroguing, losing his majority (it is now -47), is purely accidental.
We this book was written and the publication date set, we should have been out of the EU by now, and May would still be Prime Minister.
The book was deliberately due to be published now, to be available during the Conservative Party Conference, not to undermine Boris.
Gromit nothing you can say would make me like Call me Dave
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// Gromit nothing you can say would make me like Call me Dave //

I agree, he was a terrible Prime Minister and inept. Very unlikeable.
What we need is a good old fashioned PM to run the country ,someone that is for the people and someone who hast attended a public school, I'm fed up with the country run by The Establishment,I know Boris is of that caliber ( public school) butvi see him doing instead of dithering as May did ,if someone came along like the one in my opening salvo , they'd get my vote but sadly there is no one who remotely fits that description

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