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Another Jewish M P Leaves Labour......
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//Mrs Ellman, who is Jewish, has been a party member for 55 years but said she "can no longer advocate voting Labour when it risks Corbyn becoming PM".//
//Mrs Ellman, who has been an MP since 1997, said anti-Semitism had become "mainstream" in Labour under Mr Corbyn's leadership.
"I believe that Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to serve as our prime minister," she said. // - who needs opposition when the party is self destructing? Can Labour ever reverse the path of extremism they have taken?
//Mrs Ellman, who is Jewish, has been a party member for 55 years but said she "can no longer advocate voting Labour when it risks Corbyn becoming PM".//
//Mrs Ellman, who has been an MP since 1997, said anti-Semitism had become "mainstream" in Labour under Mr Corbyn's leadership.
"I believe that Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to serve as our prime minister," she said. // - who needs opposition when the party is self destructing? Can Labour ever reverse the path of extremism they have taken?
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To answer Naomi; leaders come and go, but the issues are always there. I keep hearing about anti-semitism in the Labour Party. Obviously some people are much more informed than most of us. I don't subscribe to any particular websites or publications for Labour, so I am not aware of the specifics of the allegations. I'm sure someone will put that right very shortly. I wonder who? :o)
To answer Naomi; leaders come and go, but the issues are always there. I keep hearing about anti-semitism in the Labour Party. Obviously some people are much more informed than most of us. I don't subscribe to any particular websites or publications for Labour, so I am not aware of the specifics of the allegations. I'm sure someone will put that right very shortly. I wonder who? :o)
// Can Labour ever reverse the path of extremism they have taken? //
They don't seem to want to. Every resignation from a moderate or non-Jeremy worshipper, is met with cries of 'good riddance traitor!'.
They seem more concerned with maintaining the ideological purity of the party than gaining power and doing anything useful.
They don't seem to want to. Every resignation from a moderate or non-Jeremy worshipper, is met with cries of 'good riddance traitor!'.
They seem more concerned with maintaining the ideological purity of the party than gaining power and doing anything useful.
// Isn't Labour's problem that left-wingers like Corbyn are pro-Palestine and anti-Israel which has led some to be antisemitic? //
Yes, but the undoubted presence of anti-Semites in the Labour party is complicated by the fact that there are vested interests that would seek to stifle any criticism of Israel on a political level by calling it anti-Semitism. Also, they just want to use it as a stick to beat the Labour party with.
Substitute Conservative party and Islamophobia, and you have the same situation on the right wing.
Yes, but the undoubted presence of anti-Semites in the Labour party is complicated by the fact that there are vested interests that would seek to stifle any criticism of Israel on a political level by calling it anti-Semitism. Also, they just want to use it as a stick to beat the Labour party with.
Substitute Conservative party and Islamophobia, and you have the same situation on the right wing.
// Yet there hasn't been a steady stream of prominent and long-standing Muslim Tory MPs leaving the party saying that they cannot stay //
No, because there aren't really the same divisions or extent of problem there. A lot of what's going on in Labour is as much to do with the right and left of Labour fighting over the ownership of the party as it is anything else - MPs are leaving and citing anti-Semitism as a parting shot to cause maximum damage to Corbyn, when actually they're Blairites who can no longer live with his loony policies.
What I meant was that there are vested interests that would seek to label any criticism of Islam by any Conservatives as institutional Islamophobia in the Tory party, not only to shut down the criticism, but also to attack the party.
No, because there aren't really the same divisions or extent of problem there. A lot of what's going on in Labour is as much to do with the right and left of Labour fighting over the ownership of the party as it is anything else - MPs are leaving and citing anti-Semitism as a parting shot to cause maximum damage to Corbyn, when actually they're Blairites who can no longer live with his loony policies.
What I meant was that there are vested interests that would seek to label any criticism of Islam by any Conservatives as institutional Islamophobia in the Tory party, not only to shut down the criticism, but also to attack the party.
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