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Lib Nodems
No link. Just a question from me. First of all they don't respect our democracy by saying they will drop Brexit they if they get into power and now they are planning rigging the general election results, by stopping voters voting for their choice of party in some constituencies. How can they get away with this? Surely it should be challenged!
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I assume you mean that by having a pact among parties they in effect take away one candidate or other and as such remove voter options. Yes correct that is the effect. It is within the rules even though the Lib NonDem name seems to get ever further from what they actually practice.
10:30 Fri 08th Nov 2019
Opting not to stand in a particular constituency is a right. Forming alliances is a political move. Unsure why that would be challenged.
To any normal folk they are seen as being undemocratic; but don't dismiss a debater's ability to argue and convince that up is down, left is right, and undemocracy is the new democracy. Probably get legal backing for the Newspeak too judging from recent events.
Good luck with your challenge.
To any normal folk they are seen as being undemocratic; but don't dismiss a debater's ability to argue and convince that up is down, left is right, and undemocracy is the new democracy. Probably get legal backing for the Newspeak too judging from recent events.
Good luck with your challenge.
it seems not everyone is going along with it though:
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Don’t forget that a lot of people here have been calling for the Tory party and the Brexit party to do just what the Lib Dems, Greens and Plaid Cymru do.
In many constituencies in NI it happens all the time. There’s been a big fuss in NI because the new leader of the hapless Ulster Unionist party said he would not stand down candidates in seats where fielding two unionists might let in Sinn Fein. Then he was forced to recant. Pacts always happen when there’s a common cause (Unionist/republican, Brexit/Remain etc ) which is seem to transcend party politics.
In many constituencies in NI it happens all the time. There’s been a big fuss in NI because the new leader of the hapless Ulster Unionist party said he would not stand down candidates in seats where fielding two unionists might let in Sinn Fein. Then he was forced to recant. Pacts always happen when there’s a common cause (Unionist/republican, Brexit/Remain etc ) which is seem to transcend party politics.
your point is valid nellie but this kind of tactic is legal and they all do it to some extent. As you say above the party you want to vote for may not be standing because of a pact, but also they may not be standing simply because they are not targeting the seat. Eg not sure if the Greens generally stand in every seat but if they do it's £325k in deposits alone and most of it will be lost, that is a consideration for smaller parties.
No party can be obliged to field a candidate in a General Election. In my constituency neither Labour nor the LibDems put up a candidate in the last 3 elections as the seat was held by the "sitting tenant" John Bercow so I was effectively disenfranchised. Nothing I could do about that. This time round at least I'll have a meaningful vote which I may well use tactically.
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