Why Do Some Of Labour Hate Jewish People?

[Deskdiary]

This is a genuine question.

Why?

I just don't get it.

The Jewish people, throughout history, have been persecuted - a friend of mind lives in the Kazimierz part of Krakow and I visit him a couple of times a year, and to this day, in some courtyards, you can still see the bullet holes in walls from the pogroms.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7688773/John-Le-Carre-trashes-Jeremy-Corbyns-long-record-embracing-anti-Semites.html

Why do some in Labour hate them so much?

[jim360]

It goes without saying that any "ancient notion" relating to Jewish people and finances is utterly without foundation.

[Deskdiary]

The one that really brings a lump to my throat, Naomi, are the chairs.

Apologies for the enormous link.

I love Krakow - just about my favourite European city.

When I visited Auschwitz I was truly humbled; even typing this now is making the hairs on the back of my neck stand-up.

So again, I wonder why there's so much anti-semitism (let's call it what it really is - anti-Jew) in the Labour party.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dreamstime.com%2Feditorial-stock-image-stone-chairs-cobbled-street-art-installation-krakow-poland-memory-jewish-ghetto-krakow-popul-people-has-mill-image44394229&psig=AOvVaw1pAGGSYJhjj-JEb4fkdMYM&ust=1573944506844000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCNCR0qym7eUCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

[naomi24]

Jim, //It goes without saying that any "ancient notion" relating to Jewish people and finances is utterly without foundation. //

Actually, Jim, it isn't without foundation. Not at all. The Jews have always been self-sufficient, they've always been in business, and they've always been good with money. They've had to be.

Deskdiary, the chairs are poignant indeed, but the wall gets to me most. What kind of sick mind would have conceived such a cruel idea? It's inconceivable to me.

I don't think I have a word for Auschwitz - or Berkinau. Nothing suffices.

[Deskdiary]

Where’s Gulliver?

[naomi24]

On his travels?

[Canary42]

The Tory Party is far more anti-semitic, but the Rabid Right-wing press keep quite about that.

[naomi24]

Got any examples from the rabid left wing press, canary?

[jim360]

I would have also thought it went without saying that the "ancient notions" I was referring to were the explicitly negative, offensive and conspiratorial ones, rather than those about career choices.

[naomi24]

It depends on one’s perception of astute businessmen. They’re often regarded with suspicion....

[Theland]

Naomi - "We've been there . . . "
Yeah right.
If you say so, the parallels between the OT and history don't exist?
But as you say, "been there."

[Peter Pedant]

// How many Arab refugees are there? The Arab countries won't take them in.//

no - or yes ! the turks who are not arab have just sent us an isis refugee, and he arrived and was arrested yesterday. no one seemed to notice

[Theland]

Peter Pedant - Hello. Where have you been?
Somewhere nice I hope :-)

[Peter Pedant]

// the parallels between the OT and history don't exist?//

the parallels dont have the significance you attach to them.

[Theland]

Peter - Well a difference of opinion.
Agree to disagree?

[Peter Pedant]

hi - theland
no - hospital - I had an obstruction which was not related to a previous cancer - ugh
well it could be worse - I was surrounded by my contemporaries who had ALL had an obstruction related in some way to new cancer ....it reminded me how lucky I was

thnks you for your kind thoughts

( one ABer wrote: I hope he dies......showing previously unidentified streak of humour...)

[Theland]

My last few stays in hospital, three this year, it was worth it for the soup!
I hope your literary skills are a sharp as ever.

[Peter Pedant]

yes no - we can agree
you will accept that the NT was written not as a future predictive document but to record something which HAD happened

[Theland]

Peter - Prophecy has several levels and meanings.
Future events are simply one level.

[Mozz71]

//Alas, Mozz71, normal Labour voters such as your good self, have the like of Gulliver and diddlydo to contend with, both of whom are, frankly, not very bright//

Yup, I can handle 3T and Retrocop, but find it really tough to keep to the left through fear of being lumped in with dumb and dumber.

[Theland]

If it wasn't for the Labour leadership, I would vote for them and their working to a more compassionate society, but they would also have to dump quite a few front benchers.