Labour Plans To Teach British Empire Injustice In Schools

[naomi24]

In other words, Labour intends to fill young minds with its own anti-British brand of politics rather than history.

And there’s more.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50551765

Be afraid … be very afraid.

[Spicerack]

The anti-British ABers must be sleeping in this morning,,,,again.

[naomi24]

They're all potty.

[emmie]

so they are ^^

[andy-hughes]

Increasingly, Labour rhetoric is centering on nonsense such as colonial history, which is just that, and more currently, a nasty snide deeply jealous obsession with the mega-rich which only comes over as nasty and pointless.

I seriously hope they receive the election drubbing that their nasty small-minded fantasy-based policies deserve.

[jno]

andy, the empire isn't history yet. How else to exxlain the disgraceful Windrush business - invite imperial citizens here to work, then deliberately create a "hostile environment" to make them go away again?

[anotheoldgit]

It's all done to get the ethnic minorities to vote Labour, hence the hatred towards Jews, that attracts the Muslim vote and now how bad we were to the blacks, that will attract the black vote.

[andy-hughes]

Spicerack - // The anti-British ABers must be sleeping in this morning,,,,again. //

I am not sure who the 'anti-British AB'ers' are, but if Mr Corbyn believes that prioritising the wrongs of Britain's colonial past is the correct way to educate young people to believe in themselves and to understand their history in context, then he is more of an idiot than I assumed, which is difficult, but not impossible.

[emmie]

according to yesterdays news something like 1.9 million people of Black and Asian heritage have not registered to vote.

[andy-hughes]

jno - // andy, the empire isn't history yet. How else to exxlain the disgraceful Windrush business - invite imperial citizens here to work, then deliberately create a "hostile environment" to make them go away again? //

Any current society has two choices - it can understand the dreadful things done by its forbears, and understand that the world is now a very different place - or it can wring its hands and forever be mired in an abject apology for things it was not party to, and spend its time looking backwards and anguishing on things it was not involved in, and cannot change.

Will Mr Corbyn risk trade relations with Germany on the basis of the Nazis, or castigate Spain for the Inquisition, or the Dutch and Portuguese for their thriving slave trades, or is he simply going to expect the UK to be alone in this ludicrous navel-gazing perversion of historical context?

[naomi24]

//invite imperial citizens here to work, then deliberately create a "hostile environment" to make them go away again?//

Who did that?

[emmie]

you have to admit that many weren't welcomed with open arms by the populace, i remember signs on B&B, saying no coloureds, Irish, dogs, not necessarily in that order

[andy-hughes]

emmie - // you have to admit that many weren't welcomed with open arms by the populace, i remember signs on B&B, saying no coloureds, Irish, dogs, not necessarily in that order //

No argument there - but that was the reaction of the population, which is not controlled by the government.

The government cannot be held responsible for inviting people to come to the UK, and then receiving a hostile reception from the population - the two are entirely separate.

[anotheoldgit]

Andy Hughes
Good post Andy the 10.34 one.
We have recently witnessed Black history month can't remember any negative points raised regarding their past history.

[MallyJ]

But it is British history.....people across the world were appallingly treated by the British for a very long time...why shouldn't children learn the truth of the cruelty etc carried out by the British.....or should history be watered down ??

[pixie374]

This just comes across that Corbyn is (erroneously) terrified that he may actually win- and is doing everything he can to prevent it. He needn't worry.

[emmie]

and many British were treated miserably by the Barbary Pirates, being captured and sold into slavery, the post i put said upwards of one million were taken, no one
teaches about that

[ludwig]

// I seriously hope they receive the election drubbing that their nasty small-minded fantasy-based policies deserve. //

I'm seriously starting to think that they don't care much about winning an election. It seems more important to the current leadership that they restore the ideological purity of the party and purge it of all traces of Blairite contamination.

Their manifesto is like the fantasy one they've always wanted to do. Free everything for everyone paid for by the nasty rich.

The fact that most of the electorate don't buy it seems of little concern. Making what they see as a genuinely socialist offering seems to be the main priority.

[andy-hughes]

MallyJ - // But it is British history.....people across the world were appallingly treated by the British for a very long time...why shouldn't children learn the truth of the cruelty etc carried out by the British.....or should history be watered down ?? //

No, history should not be watered down, but neither should it be inaccurately portrayed as an exercise in pointless meaningless right-on credential-seeking either.

History is about context, yes we should acknowledge the bad things our ancestors did, and also the good things they did, that is what context delivers, but to suggest that we should all walk around weeping and wailing for the dreadful things done before we were born is not only colossally arrogant and self-serving, it distorts the reality of how society and culture arrived where they are now, and where they are going in the future, and that is what history should be used for.

History is experience, it is not a whip for the self-obsessed right-on Labour numpties to beat themselves up with, for their own percular attention-seeking reasons.

[andy-hughes]

ludwig - // I'm seriously starting to think that they don't care much about winning an election. It seems more important to the current leadership that they restore the ideological purity of the party and purge it of all traces of Blairite contamination. //

I think you have a valid point.

The sheer lunacy of the flagship policies Labour is espousing show a party who is confident it will never actually to have to put such nonsense into practice.

'Free broadband' sounds like a brilliant vote-catcher for the valuable youth vote, but it is based on fantasy.

I worked for BT in the division that conceived and delivered initial broadband hardware and software and the complexity, time, and most of all cost, involved are something Labour have clearly not even dreamed of - if they had, they would see the wisdom of the current BT Chairman dissing their nonsensical £20 billion figure with a low estimate of his own of £40 billion, with unseen additions to be added on.

Look at HS2 - millions spent, and not a foot of track laid yet.

Don;t these people realise who these infrastructure projects actually work?

Clearly they don;t, but as we agree, why should they care anyway?

Jezzer looks ever more desperate to return to back-bench agitation which is all he has ever known, and all he is fit for.

[ludwig]

// The sheer lunacy of the flagship policies Labour is espousing show a party who is confident it will never actually to have to put such nonsense into practice. //

Which is why I also believe a drubbing at the election would do nothing to change their current direction. They'd simply install a Corbynista to carry on in the footsteps of the dear leader and blame defeat on a failure of the public to understand their vision, as misrepresented by a hostile media.

It'd actually take a Labour victory to force a rethink. After a euphoric honeymoon period when they actually had to deliver and it all came crashing down in blame and recrimination, then we might see some sensibleness restored.