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Corbyn To Step Down
But not quite yet, close the door after you Jezza, take Jo Swinson with you
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gromit // The process that elected Corbyn leader will still be in place when they elect his successor. So they will probably repeat their mistake having learned nothing. //
As a moderate that would like to see a credible opposition in place, that is also my worry. However, my Labour friends are already blaming the result on the right wing media and Laura Kuenssberg brainwashing the electorate, so we'll probably see more of the same.
As I said on another thread, it probably would have taken victory, and the resulting shambolic failure to govern to force Labour into some kind of rethink.
As a moderate that would like to see a credible opposition in place, that is also my worry. However, my Labour friends are already blaming the result on the right wing media and Laura Kuenssberg brainwashing the electorate, so we'll probably see more of the same.
As I said on another thread, it probably would have taken victory, and the resulting shambolic failure to govern to force Labour into some kind of rethink.
Labour cannot win as Labour, they have to disguise and mutate. Blair et al saw this, they slaughtered the sacred cows of Labour and nicked the Tories clothes to get in in 1997. To get back they'll have to do the same again and that means clearing out the loonies and offering a sensible credible alternative. The electorate are not stupid they can see the bogey men lurking in the shadows.
Unusually, I agree with TLC. momentum will lose it's... um... momentum. It will fade out, or with any luck, be a victim of the Labour closet cean out that is needed.
I do disagree with Dave at this point though, a rebrand isn't needed, all that is needed is for the public to see that this version of Labour has been moved away from. If not, the Tories will have free range to do what they please for the next decade.
I do disagree with Dave at this point though, a rebrand isn't needed, all that is needed is for the public to see that this version of Labour has been moved away from. If not, the Tories will have free range to do what they please for the next decade.
momentum Won’t just give up even if they perpetually lose general election after general election. As momentum control the party they won’t abolish themselves, so the Labour Party are stuck in their election groundhog day.
Continually losing is good for career politicians so the Moderates in the Labour Party will have to leave and regroup, which will take 10-20 years just to see any fruition.
Continually losing is good for career politicians so the Moderates in the Labour Party will have to leave and regroup, which will take 10-20 years just to see any fruition.
This election has been a big 'NO' vote:
No to European socialist expansionist aspirations,
No to movement left towards a socialist/Marxist UK.
I too hope that a new version of Labour can rise from the ashes and eschew extremist vituperation a la 'Class War' and all those other very left groups have been spouting.
Lets hope all elected can now work together to get this country sorted quickly and seamlessly without the blind opposing of everything any one suggested along party lines.
No to European socialist expansionist aspirations,
No to movement left towards a socialist/Marxist UK.
I too hope that a new version of Labour can rise from the ashes and eschew extremist vituperation a la 'Class War' and all those other very left groups have been spouting.
Lets hope all elected can now work together to get this country sorted quickly and seamlessly without the blind opposing of everything any one suggested along party lines.
Alan Johnson summing it up..
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