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Methinks She Doth Protest Too Much......
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Looks like Lady Nugee is spitting the dummy out!
Looks like Lady Nugee is spitting the dummy out!
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sounds to me like just the sort of thing she would have said.
sounds to me like just the sort of thing she would have said.
Labours civil war, and blame game goes public.
Flint represented Don Valley, a former mining community which voted 68% to Leave the EU. Flint supported Theresa Mays Brexit deal, and rebelled against her party to vote with the Government, was rewarded with the sack by her constituents.
Thornberry, who insisted a second referendum should be Labour’s pledge in the general election, and the main cause of their massive defeat, was returned with a 17,000 majority in her safe London seat.
Labour politicians suing each other is a funny spectacle.
Flint represented Don Valley, a former mining community which voted 68% to Leave the EU. Flint supported Theresa Mays Brexit deal, and rebelled against her party to vote with the Government, was rewarded with the sack by her constituents.
Thornberry, who insisted a second referendum should be Labour’s pledge in the general election, and the main cause of their massive defeat, was returned with a 17,000 majority in her safe London seat.
Labour politicians suing each other is a funny spectacle.
// Labours civil war, and blame game goes public. //
..and I'm looking forward to it. It promises to get even nastier than it has been thus far.
Listening to Corbyn and McDonnell over the weekend, there appears to be no sign of any lessons being learnt on their part, with everything blamed firmly on Brexit.
The massive unpopularity of Corbyn and his unbelievable manifesto was largely dismissed as being a factor in the result.
..and I'm looking forward to it. It promises to get even nastier than it has been thus far.
Listening to Corbyn and McDonnell over the weekend, there appears to be no sign of any lessons being learnt on their part, with everything blamed firmly on Brexit.
The massive unpopularity of Corbyn and his unbelievable manifesto was largely dismissed as being a factor in the result.
ludwig
But the smoking gun is all those Leave voting constituencies up North voting Conservative.
All Labour were offering was another referendum, and the voters didn’t want one.
Certainly Corbyn is a poor salesman for the Labour Party, but if all you are selling is junk, then don’t be surprised no one buys it.
If Thornberry, Starmer or Cooper had been leader, they still would have lost the election because they misread the public.
But the smoking gun is all those Leave voting constituencies up North voting Conservative.
All Labour were offering was another referendum, and the voters didn’t want one.
Certainly Corbyn is a poor salesman for the Labour Party, but if all you are selling is junk, then don’t be surprised no one buys it.
If Thornberry, Starmer or Cooper had been leader, they still would have lost the election because they misread the public.
//If Thornberry, Starmer or Cooper had been leader, they still would have lost the election because they misread the public.//
No no noooooo!
Apparently it was the public who misread them. Mr McDonnell said yesterday that they had "failed to articulate their argument" and Mr Corbyn insists that they won the argument on most of their policies and that their programme was popular. In one respect they are correct: the voters are to blame for their defeat. I once heard a boxer declaring, after being knocked out, that he would have won the bout if it wasn't for his opponent thumping him so hard.
Labour is becoming increasingly dominated by the Metropolitan virtue voters who would be relatively untouched by their disastrous policies and there simply are not enough of them to put them into power. The people whose interests they are supposed to represent are treated with contempt and, despite her protestations and as I said on another thread yesterday, Ms Flint's allegations of Lady Nugee's remarks are more likely to be true than not.
No no noooooo!
Apparently it was the public who misread them. Mr McDonnell said yesterday that they had "failed to articulate their argument" and Mr Corbyn insists that they won the argument on most of their policies and that their programme was popular. In one respect they are correct: the voters are to blame for their defeat. I once heard a boxer declaring, after being knocked out, that he would have won the bout if it wasn't for his opponent thumping him so hard.
Labour is becoming increasingly dominated by the Metropolitan virtue voters who would be relatively untouched by their disastrous policies and there simply are not enough of them to put them into power. The people whose interests they are supposed to represent are treated with contempt and, despite her protestations and as I said on another thread yesterday, Ms Flint's allegations of Lady Nugee's remarks are more likely to be true than not.
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