Should The House Of Lords Get The Chop?

[Khandro]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1224237/house-of-lords-reform-latest-boris-johnson-lord-salisbury-plan

[Old_Geezer]

It needs reforming. It isn't even close to being democratic.

[Apc2604]

No, but it needs shaking up and its members should be democratically elected.

[ToraToraTora]

yes, sweep the whole sorry shower away and replace with an elected second chamber of no more than 200.

[Apc2604]

We definitely need a second chamber, elected from all sectors of society - not career politicians!

[TonyV]

Not be chopped, but needs a major reform, not jobs for the boys. Need a second house so that the government with a majority cannot just vote in whatever legislation they want.

[sevenOP]

Best laugh this year.
Of 'privileged' course it should get the chop, but no need for Madame-G. But even less chance of that than a speedy Brexit.

Be interesting to see if the commentariat on here who swallowed the Referendum result elation pill fall for this hilarious nonsense,
"The Prime Minister is also working on a new list of peers. They are due to be unveiled towards the end of January. Former cabinet member David Liddington and Patrick McLoughlin are expected to be ennobled." --- even the Donald would recognise this as 'fake news(paper)

[jourdain2]

It needs major reform. Not coming close to it's 'revising chamber' limits.

[cassa333]

Sevenop still bitter about Brexit are you?

I am in general a traditionalist and consider some of our older traditions as quaint and worth the trouble they occasionally cause..

However Brexit has shown in stark evidence how unelected knowitalls think they can do anything and everything to change a democratic decision.

For me they simply went beyond the pale and no longer deserve the respect they have been given.

A second chamber of elected representatives that have no more than perhaps three consecutive terms in office should shake them up a bit.

There is no getting away with the fact career politicians will always get to be MPs and such like. It’s basically all they know and strive for.

I would have MPs no younger than 35 who have had at least 15yrs in the normal workplace. And that does not include going from university to an intern with a political party or candidate etc.

But that will never happen.

[sevenOP]

casa333 -- "Sevenop still bitter about Brexit are you?"

That is an ambiguous question; are you enquiring whether I am aggrieved Brexit won the vote or the fact it has still not happened?

[emmie]

it needs reforming as others have already said.

[youngmafbog]

With TTT on this.

In addition need to elect Judges too.

Drain the Swamp.

[youngmafbog]

//Need a second house so that the government with a majority cannot just vote in whatever legislation they want.//

Hmmm, Parliament Act ring any bells?

[AuntPollyGrey]

Although I agree that there should be a second house it should be elected members and the Lords as it is should be dissolved. The present Lords should be allowed to stand for election into the house but I hazzard a guess many of them wouldn't.

[TonyV]

I don't profess to be an expert in parliamentary procedure, but any law / act can be modified.

[youngmafbog]

And end £300 just for signing in.

Pitch up and stay awake or dont come in.

[davebro]

Some might like the chop - or prefer the Norfolk Bronze Turkey or Denham Estate Venison on offer in the dining room!

(Best club in London!)s

[10ClarionSt]

There's nothing wrong with trying to improve "the system", if it does improve it. As long as it's for the benefit of everyone.

[Apc2604]

//I would have MPs no younger than 35 who have had at least 15yrs in the normal workplace. And that does not include going from university to an intern with a political party or candidate etc.//

Cassa. I totally agree! I have been saying this for years. I also think that every MP in the Commons should have at least 5 years experience in the workplace (and also teachers for that matter)!

[TonyV]

yes £300 plus exs for reading the papers or having a doze (some not all) plus subsidised food and one of the best stocked wine cellars in the country.

[cassa333]

Sevenop, the choice is yours if you think it ambiguous. But your post comes across as clearly having not accepted the actual referendum.

Especially when you say...

Be interesting to see if the commentariat on here who swallowed the Referendum result elation pill fall for this hilarious nonsense,