After Reading This, Would You Get On Any Boeing Plane?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51058929
It's a given that I don't trust the 737Max but the culture displayed here makes me wonder about any recent Boeing. I'd still get on the older ones, like the 747, they seem better put together.
AH this is another example of profit before safety that we were discussing yesterday.

[cassa333]

You often get to the truth of a situation when you listen to the people on the ground (no pun intended) and emails between employees can often point to problems that higher management try to brush under the carpet.

One could dismiss a couple of emails deriding the plane, system, management or ethos as simply disgruntled employees but when those emails become an avalanche it’s a different matter.

We probably all have heard of box ticking exercises just to pass the standard. And to be honest if a company such as this is actively trying to keep the regulator out then that in itself should set alarm bells ringing.

[Zacs-Master]

avalanche?

[ToraToraTora]

ZM: "I excitedly announced that we'd be flying on a 747 in a few weeks to Mrs Zacs. Her reply was a shrug of the shoulders. " - I love 747s the work horse of the sky, finest passenger plan ever designed. It only exists because of Concord!

[Zacs-Master]

I didn't know that, Tora. Never been on one before so I'm buzzing (won't be up in the bubble unfortunately.....unless we get a SERIOUS upgrade). Been on A380, but not the daddy of them all.

[ToraToraTora]

what happened was...Boeing were working on a supersonic plane like Concord but had huge problems and abandoned when the anglo/French plane got going. So they reverted to their back up project of the 747. I've been on one and I always try to get on a 747, they seem to have a soul, wonderful machines. I have also been on Concord and that gives me the same feeling.. Champagne and Lobster at 56000 feet, Mach2 and you could build a house of cards!

[ToraToraTora]

I went to Las Vegas in 2003 on a virgin 747, sadly not in the bubble but I was on the same plane as Shania Twain!

[Zacs-Master]

That don't impress me much! ;-))

Thanks for the info.

[theshedman]

It seems hard to believe a company like Boeing would scrimp on safety. Yes all companies look for savings when buying. It does seem like it was more a case of not testing the safety features of the 737Max well enough before putting it into service. Back in the 60s the 747 nearly put Boeing out of business because of costs but they wouldn't cut corners to save money. The first plane I flew on was a 707 from London to Sydney back in mid 60s and felt safe on it. That same plane had an engine failure a couple of years later which turned into a fire after one engine fell off the plane. The plane made a safe landing but some people died. The plane was a BOAC 707, call sign Whisky Echo something I won't forget. Have flown many many times since some with mishaps but still feel safe as I know the checks they do on them. As for what is in the news you have to careful as often ex employees or disgruntled employees will put out stuff that is not actually all fact.

[237SJ]

Yes, I would get on any Boeing plane but not the Max (at the moment)