and no im not a miserable old man, who hates kids..have my own
all grown up and left, i just dont think kids and pubs mix, people
myself included go there to get away from the noise and chaos
of them...i understand pubs have to make a living, so try and cater
to all and some sundry, when i was a lad, mu parents took us to restaurants cafe's etc and not pubs, conservative probably, respectful without doubt, speak when your spoken to, look but dont touch, please and thank you were the orfer of the day.