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Maybe your dad wasn't as easily fooled as you seem to think, BHG.
He may have just humoured you in your mischief.
Doubt if you'd been to terrorist training camps and asked for 2cwt of salt peter he'd have been quite so obliging.
This case has also highlighted the way the benefits and student loan system are abused in a big way by some and can be used to fund terrorism.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-51446214
// Defence lawyers are entitled to advise their client not to stand in their own defense.//

like randy andy - you are not obliged to incriminate yourself

he was extradited - from Libya after his family pointed out to the authorities that he was in prison there.

The Crown has to prove its case
Terrorism - the meer sniff of it can make men lose all sense of er sense. The federal Oz prosecutor in another case of Haneef Mohd - perjured himself. He later admitted that he knew what he was swearing to a judge (Haneef Mohd was at Bentley Drive ) because his driving licence had been found there was completely untrue and he was aware of it when he pleaded it. He got off with 'oops'
Isnt this the case where the police tried to have it heard in camera because the informant ( that they ignored ) was the ......
13 y o youngest brother was a minor
And still the doors from sharia land to our shores remain open. that is a disgrace.
// And still the doors from sharia land to our shores remain open. that is a disgrace.//
what ?

I have checked there is no sharia law or surat in the Koran that says that blowing 22 kids to smithereens in a northern city guarantees you a place in Heaven or is in anyway excusable or lawful or the right thing to do
yup true
and clearly the family didnt agree with it or they would not have dobbed him in
//and clearly the family didnt agree with it or they would not have dobbed him in//

Any evidence for that, PP?
Elders and family members certainly reported him before the Arena attack, that's why there was a review of the handling - not sure about afterwards.
Mmm, the plot thickens. I knew all the family were in the 'terrorism business' and MI5 knew all about/encouraged them.

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