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Grooming Gang Petition
Now at an astonishing 109,000 plus
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showing just how high public feeling is. Sad that vetuste isn't with us, this was one of his strongest modern-day societal concerns.
I have just signed it too, btw.
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showing just how high public feeling is. Sad that vetuste isn't with us, this was one of his strongest modern-day societal concerns.
I have just signed it too, btw.
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Signed it Monday. The same gits who covered it up and facilitated it in the first place, are now trying to hide their complicity behind a protective wall of diversity. We need to hunt them down and hound them out of office. Perhaps the "officials and police officers" were themselves "involved" and are naturally trying to hush it up again. We owe our names to this...
20:04 Wed 11th Mar 2020
TheDevil - You appear to be using that standard spurious argument that because 'this' is worse than 'that', it somehow mitigates the seriousness of 'that' - which clearly it does not.
No-one would take issue with your point that the majority of child abusers are white men.
But similarly, I would not take issue with Naomi's point that the majority of child abuse grooming gangs are Asian men - because there is ample evidence to back up that position.
I fail to see the point is signing a petition to release information that I already know, and I would not touch anything connected to Breitbart with someone else's barge pole.
No-one would take issue with your point that the majority of child abusers are white men.
But similarly, I would not take issue with Naomi's point that the majority of child abuse grooming gangs are Asian men - because there is ample evidence to back up that position.
I fail to see the point is signing a petition to release information that I already know, and I would not touch anything connected to Breitbart with someone else's barge pole.
// "it is an entirely different matter, unheard of before the Asian influx into the UK whatever this one BBC professor says."//
oh god W T stead did time for what wd be grooming around 1885
later drowned on the Titanic ( no connection ) 1912
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oh god W T stead did time for what wd be grooming around 1885
later drowned on the Titanic ( no connection ) 1912
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"You appear to be using that standard spurious argument that because 'this' is worse than 'that', it somehow mitigates the seriousness of 'that' - which clearly it does not."
I'm not, i'm just making a point. The focus on AB is NEVER child grooming or exploitation. It's Muslim or Asian men, and that is the crux of the issue. People don't care about the grooming, they just want another bullet to put in their xenophobix gun.
That point is made clear on not only this thread, but also the thread titled "Nurse Struck Off.."
If you really care about grooming, you would care about all cases, not just Pakistani gangs.
I'm not telling people to focus on white men, i'm just highlighting the reality of the situation in the UK, not one isolated place.
But whatever if people don't care they don't care. But if people do care about just another bullet for their xenophobic gun then that's where I care, because why would I simply read such horror and not stand up against it?
I'm not, i'm just making a point. The focus on AB is NEVER child grooming or exploitation. It's Muslim or Asian men, and that is the crux of the issue. People don't care about the grooming, they just want another bullet to put in their xenophobix gun.
That point is made clear on not only this thread, but also the thread titled "Nurse Struck Off.."
If you really care about grooming, you would care about all cases, not just Pakistani gangs.
I'm not telling people to focus on white men, i'm just highlighting the reality of the situation in the UK, not one isolated place.
But whatever if people don't care they don't care. But if people do care about just another bullet for their xenophobic gun then that's where I care, because why would I simply read such horror and not stand up against it?
I've signed the UK Government petition, thanks for providing a link to it.
The idea that this problem has been 'dealt with' because a tiny fraction of perpetrators have been prosecuted is ridiculous. The victims assert that, in their communities, the abuse is ongoing and they're in even more danger when the paltry sentences have been served and the rapists are back on the streets. And I've seen no evidence that the Pakistani community ostracises these men, quite the reverse.
The idea that this problem has been 'dealt with' because a tiny fraction of perpetrators have been prosecuted is ridiculous. The victims assert that, in their communities, the abuse is ongoing and they're in even more danger when the paltry sentences have been served and the rapists are back on the streets. And I've seen no evidence that the Pakistani community ostracises these men, quite the reverse.
TheDevil - // I'm not, i'm just making a point. The focus on AB is NEVER child grooming or exploitation. It's Muslim or Asian men, and that is the crux of the issue. People don't care about the grooming, they just want another bullet to put in their xenophobix gun.
That point is made clear on not only this thread, but also the thread titled "Nurse Struck Off.."
If you really care about grooming, you would care about all cases, not just Pakistani gangs. //
If you assume that because this thread discusses Asian Grooming Gangs, and that means that people are indifferent to other types of abuse, then that is such a simplistic an inaccurate assumption as not be worth discussing.
The thread is about Asian Grooming Gangs.
If you want to discuss what you perceive to be selective interest on the part of your fellow AB'ers, start another thread to discuss it.
That point is made clear on not only this thread, but also the thread titled "Nurse Struck Off.."
If you really care about grooming, you would care about all cases, not just Pakistani gangs. //
If you assume that because this thread discusses Asian Grooming Gangs, and that means that people are indifferent to other types of abuse, then that is such a simplistic an inaccurate assumption as not be worth discussing.
The thread is about Asian Grooming Gangs.
If you want to discuss what you perceive to be selective interest on the part of your fellow AB'ers, start another thread to discuss it.
Bobbisox - // Is it not so that these gangs hit on young whites females ? Rather than their own, doing the latter would be seen a heinous crime in their communities //
I think it is a combination of factors and circumstances.
I do believe that the grooming gangs would not to prey on Asian girls in their community - there would be the fact that they can empathise with Asian teenagers, whereas the gangs regard white teenagers as simply beneath contempt, and there to be abused.
Add to that the swift and violent retribution that would follow any abuse of an Asian teenager, and that puts them off limits to gangs.
In addition, there is a simple matter of availability - Asian girls are far more closely supervised, and interaction with men outside the family is usually chaperoned.
Vulnerable white girls, on the other hand, are liable to have the freedom afforded to them by uncaring and dysfunctional families, or lack of appropriate supervision in care institutions.
That, coupled with an attendant need for attention and affection makes these girls vulnerable prey for predatory men.
I think it is a combination of factors and circumstances.
I do believe that the grooming gangs would not to prey on Asian girls in their community - there would be the fact that they can empathise with Asian teenagers, whereas the gangs regard white teenagers as simply beneath contempt, and there to be abused.
Add to that the swift and violent retribution that would follow any abuse of an Asian teenager, and that puts them off limits to gangs.
In addition, there is a simple matter of availability - Asian girls are far more closely supervised, and interaction with men outside the family is usually chaperoned.
Vulnerable white girls, on the other hand, are liable to have the freedom afforded to them by uncaring and dysfunctional families, or lack of appropriate supervision in care institutions.
That, coupled with an attendant need for attention and affection makes these girls vulnerable prey for predatory men.
Signed it Monday. The same gits who covered it up and facilitated it in the first place, are now trying to hide their complicity behind a protective wall of diversity. We need to hunt them down and hound them out of office. Perhaps the "officials and police officers" were themselves "involved" and are naturally trying to hush it up again. We owe our names to this petition on behalf of the innocent victims.
Four “Asian” men [there may be a clue in their names] have been found guilty for their roles in sexually grooming a 15-year-old girl, who the court heard the men passed around like a “piece of meat”.
The four grooming gang members — Shangar Ibrahimi, Kawan Omar Ahmed, Jasim Mohammed, and Nzar Anwar — were found guilty of rape. Another man, Saba Mohammed, was found guilty of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. The men were convicted at Sheffield Crown Court on Wednesday and will appear in court on Friday 13 March to be sentenced.
The court was told by the prosecution that the men used the 15-year-old girl, now in her twenties, as a “piece of meat” and that she was “nothing more than an object” to them. The court heard that the rapists were “able to use and abuse her sexually for their own sexual gratification”, reports the Birmingham Mail.
The four grooming gang members — Shangar Ibrahimi, Kawan Omar Ahmed, Jasim Mohammed, and Nzar Anwar — were found guilty of rape. Another man, Saba Mohammed, was found guilty of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. The men were convicted at Sheffield Crown Court on Wednesday and will appear in court on Friday 13 March to be sentenced.
The court was told by the prosecution that the men used the 15-year-old girl, now in her twenties, as a “piece of meat” and that she was “nothing more than an object” to them. The court heard that the rapists were “able to use and abuse her sexually for their own sexual gratification”, reports the Birmingham Mail.
"....Patel assumed the review would be prioritised as Javid, whose parents were from Pakistan, gave several high profile interviews after ordering the probe in which he said the abuse made him “feel angry”, and that the men had “disgraced our heritage”...."
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Go Pritti, show up the disgraced community Javid claims. Justice for abused girls is more important !
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Go Pritti, show up the disgraced community Javid claims. Justice for abused girls is more important !
There is, of course, another very compelling reason these people should be identified as Pakistani Muslims & not 'Asians' because that term covers millions of Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists, & Christians whose community representatives have continually asked the press & the Government not to use that description.
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For pixie374 - here's something more 'specific' (I hope this link works).
For pixie374 - here's something more 'specific' (I hope this link works).
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