Good thread Rip. I have been out today and revved the nuts off both motors for about 10 minutes each. Changed the clocks and made sure that there is nothing plugged in that can drain a battery(my motor in particular. I leave my ipod on and usb connected cos I'm a dilettante git) I had a message "Battery Low" the last time I went out, and thought What The Funicular. Then I sat down and had a think. Modern motors with wifi and bluetooth connectivity, keyless entry, push button ignition when the fob is detectable, etc.etc. are using "juice" up without us knowing it. My car for instance can detect my phone whilst I am inside and it is bluetooth connected for hands off use. So you are bang on to ask. I do have a battery charger that I can use if it goes pear shaped and a tyre inflator.......but that needs the car battery or the car running.