Remdez: Better Than Bleach Or Dettol. Trump Shock

[Peter Pedant]

Pres Trump has announced that Remdesovir (*)is a good alternative to intravenous bleach.
The question often asked is - can you believe Trump
or even is he telling the truth this time.

One thing is certain - the AMerican health sector will profit from those who need the drug

and the question - what do you think of all this ?

(*) has a product licence for tmt Ebola. - so it just needs an extension, relatively easy to effect if you have a president or money behind you

[Spicerack]

Oh, and you and the other verbose halfwit couldn't shut up about Kavanaugh.
How about scuttling out and showing a bit of support to Tara Reade.

[andy-hughes]

Spicerack - How about calming down, learning some manners, and sticking to the subject of this thread instead of trying to score a point about the subject of another one.

[tomus42]

Even Piers Morgan has now given up on trying to defend Trump.

He's obviously smart enough to have finally realised
that whenever the Donald opens his mouth he not only makes himself look stupid but also everyone that supports him.

[Spicerack]

Maybe that's why his ratings have dropped over 40% in a month.

[Atheist]

Spicerack, why are you apparently fond of Donald Trump? If you were more explanatory and less vituperative you might persuade others to share your views.

[Peter Pedant]

// In other words, trolling.
Never mind, the Guardian reader thinks you're a literary genius.//

troll and genius in one breath !
only on AB

I went back over my old times to find the one where the articulate author says - "no one listens to Trump but hey he is a pretty good Pres nonetheless"

and I shredded it

The results for the HO-Chloroquine trial were pretty terrible - and the initial one ( Singapore) wasnt good - I dont know why or how it caught the attention of the Most Powerful man on Earth

Readers have guessed that Remdez isnt gonna be like Penicillin - innit? - No or none of "I picked up my bed and walked " ( John in case that rings a bell)

and shortening an ITU stay isnt a good end point
got up and walked back to Downing st, and ran country - IS a good end pt
but oops wasnt effected by Remdez

sozza folks - some complex ideas there

[mushroom25]

Gilead has an exclusive licence to produce Remdez and (barring licencing other companies to produce it) will be the sole supplier until 2037. can we expect the company to exploit an effective cornering of the market by charging thousands per treatment course?

[Peter Pedant]

erm yes we can Mushie sweet one
The American health sector is ..... a sector - chance for profit for those in it. Lucky Gilead.

[Peter Pedant]

the HO-chloroquine trial was NOT set up to fail
Failed trials almost always dont get printed, - no one writes a book for example that is so bad it wont get a publisher.

The trial -killed more (25%) than placebo ( 11%) and was stopped early. It is permissible to do this if you build in sequential analysis into the study. Not even Dr Crappen (*) wd give drugs he knew would kill more than usual.

(*) Crappen - amusingly mispelt for Crippen. or Shopman for Shipman, coz he got shopped - see? - hey the Icke thread - do you visit Belsen often?that one, didnt last long did it?

I can see we are going to get to -- Dettol really does work if you dilute it enough

[cassa333]

Firstly Trump did NOT say to drink, ingest or inject any substance let alone bleach (that is simply lazy reporting and regurgitating MSM misinformation).

Secondly, he has some of the best scientists at his beck and call and working for and with him.

[iluvmargie]

I hope this doesn't cost him his second term.

[andy-hughes]

cassa - // Secondly, he has some of the best scientists at his beck and call and working for and with him. //

Are you familiar with the term "Casting pearls before swine"?

[mushroom25]

president Biden for you ILM?

I'm glad I haven't got to make the choice in November.

[iluvmargie]

I'm just interested in seeing if he'll get a second term.

[tomus42]

//Secondly, he has some of the best scientists at his beck and call and working for and with him. //

He should probably let them do the talking on scientific matters, rather than sitting there squirming in their seats with embarrassment as he spouts nonsense off the top of his head.

[andy-hughes]

tomus - // //Secondly, he has some of the best scientists at his beck and call and working for and with him. //

He should probably let them do the talking on scientific matters, rather than sitting there squirming in their seats with embarrassment as he spouts nonsense off the top of his head. //

Even better, his team should try and make sure that he at least does clever people the courtesy of paying attention when they are speaking, even if he has zoned out and is mentally preparing his next thin-skinned Twitface response to whomever has offended him in the last ten minutes.

Oh, and of course, not showing just how little he understands, or is paying attention, but going into pub 'idiot mode when there are cameras and microphones around.

[jim360]

There is no evidence that HCQ is effective and I do wish you'd stop pretending that there is already.

[jim360]

also, cassa: Trump said something unforgivably stupid. He didn't say "go drink Bleach" literally, no. He wondered if injecting it would be effective. It's still stupid. Just concede that point. Same with his bizarre ramblings about UV light.

[Peter Pedant]

hours of searching: the times article is
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its-only-trump-haters-who-take-him-literally-tfbvvqxxs

usual obstacles - firewalls etc

"It is worth pointing out [writes Gerard Baker,] that the president wasnt actually recommending people take the bleach cure ( God I must have nothing better to do on a sunday afternoon muses PP).His infamous remark came during one of his familiar press conference ambles through some misty science he had obviously less than fully absorbed.
[Ha ! you can write again !]. Gerard continues in the Times:
"Mr Trump wondered aloud if there might be therapies to be developed from evidence that viruses can be eliminated from some surfaces by both sunlight and certain types of disinfectant."
[Oh God did he? was that what he said? Ha ! again]

over the page above - we have Naomi - Hi Naomi! = saying he (DT) didnt say that and she didnt say that either
but Jesus it was pretty close - even for Jesuits !
and hey boys and girls as we all know - it may well be different tomorrow !