Over The Peak?

[Dagman]

Hi folks, the government inform us the UK is over the peak of the virus, I don't see it looking at the figures. How are they coming to this conclusion? I can see some sad losses down some days but shoot back up again the next, undoing them! TIA.

[chelle7272]

Not sure this is the same one but spme info here
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274.co.uk

[retrocop]

I still can't get my head round the fact that we are an Island. Historically that would keep us safe and snug from all ills and menaces yet we have the worst mortality rates in Europe. Our crime rate is not exactly enviable either. Who are doing things wrong when you consider the mortality rate from covid on the Islands of New Zealand and Australia in comparison to the UK?





https://uk.yahoo.com/news/remote-cumbrian-town-uks-highest-153955688.html

[jim360]

Several resources Woofgang but the one I use a lot is

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Note that it sometimes runs a little ahead of other more official tallies, perhaps because it relies a little on user contributions so there's a risk of double-counting at times, but it does end up agreeing with other totals.

The FT is another good resource:

https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441

[woofgang]

that's the one, worldometers, thanks jim

[woofgang]

actually jim no its not...the one I was thinking of had a map of the uk on the page with blue circles on it and you could zoom in down to city level.

[jourdain2]

That would be useful, woof. On most maps and figures our general E. Riding is the palest shade of pink and deaths minimal. We tend to be an elderly county anyway and any infection confined to 2 or 3 cities/towns. Our danger area is venturing to a supermarket in Scarborough environs.

Retrocop: 'This royal throne of kings, this scept'red isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand or war etc..
Richard 11, Act 2 John of Gaunt's speech. Alas, we forgot that. :(

[Peter Pedant]

yeah - that was all about Richard II saying good bye to the monarchy - and giving it up to an usurper ( Henry IV)
wo I think I might give that one a miss

[Peter Pedant]

// the mortality rate from covid on the Islands of New Zealand and Australia in comparison to the UK?//

we have no idea retro - I suppose when a house burns down, you can ask why that one and not the one next door - or AND the one next door?

NZ were certainly later and had less cases before they locked down. My brother has been locked in a house in Wongalura with only a few tinnies to sustain him ( sorry that is Oz, OK MongaTula then) since late March. Not allowed to see the grans children

no one got it and they didnt die - - the UK death ratio is a whopping 15. The junior doctors here are all nerds and been feeding into and data into a data base for all 300 000 cases and it has identified no pointers at all ( who progresses - who WILL need ITU and who will die) - other than what we knew from the first 500 - men get it and die, and the old, and the claggy,

[Theland]

Nothing beats a but of Shaky Billy in the morning.
Better than the smell of napalm :-(

[Peter Pedant]

damn 15%
fifteen per cent

yeah he is in Tuwoomba. and says Tuwoomba's so lonely it, itjust as well be called Wunwumba, sorry sorry a lot of the time I find AB hard to take seriously

[Peter Pedant]

I love the smell of Napalm
that is the smell of victory - boy !

bears out my semtiment about AB tho innit?

[Peter Pedant]

hey perhaps it is LonelyTula - and that is why he hasnt replied the letters are misdelivered - a few ABers may sympathise

[fiction-factory]

I think UK, particularly London, is more of a hub than New Zealand and I think a lot of the cases came in from Italy in the early days and some from China. The government says they did put in measures to control incoming cases from some of these places at the time but clearly they were too little and/or too late. It also seems countries who locked down quickly generally have lower rates. We were behind Italy and Spain and with hindsight should have had advance warning and time to act earlier. Ideally at the end of February.

But it's easy to say this with hindsight of course. At the end of February there were less than 30 cases in UK and we'd had only one death. But I don't remember any posters on here or opposition politicians in late February/beginning of March calling for an immediate complete lockdown of all shops, public transport. It would have been a brave politician to impose a lockdown at a time .
I remember in mid March when Matt Hancock advised over 70s to stay at home for some time there were lots of phone calls to LBC from people claiming it was interfering with their liberty and unnecessary. Yes in early March there were some people calling for football matches and race meetings to be called off but not for full lockdowns, school closures, etc

Was anyone here or in the opposition demanding lockdown at the end of February? Maybe I just didn't notice.