Boris At Pmqs

[diddlydo]

Anyone who still has faith in Boris, read on:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/13/boris-johnson-resorts-to-bluster-under-keir-starmer-cross-examination

[woofgang]

Its a difficult one but off the top of my head, there may have been patient confidentiality involved. If its a private carehome then the staff don't automatically have the right to know a patient's medical details unless the patient or their properly constituted representative has given permission. I know in the current circs that seems silly but back in March it may not have done?

[naomi24]

//Daily Wail and/or the Torygraph? //

Why do people make up silly names for newspapers they don't like? It all seems a bit childish to me. Just a thought. Carry on.

[tiggerblue10]

So Boris and Co are supposed to be omnipotent - all seeing, all knowing?

[diddlydo]

Naomi - like people referring to the Grauniad (sic)or calling it a "leftie rag"???

[dannyk13]

Diddly 'leftie rag' is not a made up name.It is a description which,by the way, is fully earned by the Guardian.

[naomi24]

Indeed, diddly. All very silly.

[fiction-factory]

>FF - no I don't have a cleaner. I was merely using that as an example to show that the current law/rule is illogical and downright stupid. Happy now?
Okay. So my aunt who is immobile has a cleaner who also makes her bed and wears PPE . She sits in the garden while the cleaner cleans. She doesn't hug the cleaner or make her a drink.
Sounds reasonable to me

[dannyk13]

For Diddly:-
https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/leftie-rags-the-good-and-the-bad.265465/page-3

[fiction-factory]

It's not often I agree with DD.
Thanks for the link danny but my adblocker only lets me view for 5 seconds. Does it expand on the number of cases or say whofrom government authorised it. I'm puzzled as to why anyone would be released while still infected.

[tiggerblue10]

Not sure what the issues are with The Guardian but I found this the article from last year the other day.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/sep/19/84-of-care-home-beds-in-england-owned-by-private-firms

[dannyk13]

FF, only mentions doctors, no mention of government officials.

[THECORBYLOON]

FF, if you mean The Daily Mail link, it says, "Hospitals could particularly be in breach of the watchdog’s Regulation 9, which requires providers to ensure patients receive ‘appropriate person-centred care and treatment that is based on an assessment of their needs and preferences’. 

Failure to comply is not a crime, but the CQC can use its civil powers to bring enforcement action and impose conditions on the provider, or suspend or cancel their registration. 

Hospitals have been under pressure to free up beds since the start of the coronavirus outbreak in anticipation of a surge of very sick patients. 

They were given specific guidance from NHS England on March 7 to ‘urgently’ make available 15,000 beds nationally by discharging anyone who was medically fit to leave. 

Some experts are concerned this led to hospitals sending patients into care homes without testing them for the virus, even if staff suspected they had symptoms. The Department of Health issued separate guidance on April 2 that negative tests were ‘not required’ before discharging people into a care home. 

This document was signed jointly by the CQC, the NHS and Public Health England. Miss Terroni, who has worked in social care for 20 years, said some care providers have a quarter of staff off sick."

[fiction-factory]

Thanks TCL. Will read asap.

[fiction-factory]

Thanks. No numbers in there. The Dept of Health guidance on April 2nd seems wrong if they were saying " a negative test wasn't needed"- if that applied to cases where patients had had Covid or at least were displaying symptoms. Given the pressure to boost test numbers I'm surprised they weren't encourage to test all of them just in case.
Still, the final decision on what is best in each case must rest with the hospital

[CrapAtCryptics]

No diddly I dont believe everything I read in the newspapers or see on the TV, but I can do better than a constant diet of negativity for everything your blinkered worldview gives you.

[roopower]

Maybe the refundant Nightingale hospitals could be used for " bedblockers". Granted, a lot of work would be needed to make them more homely.

[fiction-factory]

I think they may have been seen as potential "bed blockers " in March/early April I but I doubt that's the case now given that infections peaked on around 8th April and there is plenty of capacity in ICU and hospitals now