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The police can stop anyone driving a car and ask for their documents and proof of who they are, they can also question a person sat behind the wheel of a car at the kerbside.
The police can stop anyone driving a car and ask for their documents and proof of who they are, they can also question a person sat behind the wheel of a car at the kerbside.
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Blimey.
I think I need to contact the press because I was pulled over at 4am last September in SE London on the way to pick-up a mate en route to Heathrow; in addition to having to prove who I was, answer where I had come from, where I was going, and take a breath test, I was then waved on my way to catch my flight.
They clearly weren't doing their job, they were just simply picking on me.
Who should I complain to?
I think I need to contact the press because I was pulled over at 4am last September in SE London on the way to pick-up a mate en route to Heathrow; in addition to having to prove who I was, answer where I had come from, where I was going, and take a breath test, I was then waved on my way to catch my flight.
They clearly weren't doing their job, they were just simply picking on me.
Who should I complain to?
May be, just may be as strangers in a strange car in the locale the cops thought they were breaking lockdown guidelines and decided to investigate further. Hertfordshire to Suffolk is quite a long journey and with police vehicles equipped with ANPR they are able to know the address that vehicle is registered..
The police can stop anyone and ask for their documents and proof of who they are - but in the current climate, a degree of tact and diplomacy would have been appropriate in an instance like this.
I think the police handled this badly.
The female officer's observation that the couple were 'jumping on the bandwagon' was insensitive and inappropriate.
If one officer had dealt with the issue, it could have been defused with a lot less fuss, and without the police being made to look confrontational and unreasonable, and have to apologise for their conduct.
A lesson for the police - by all means stop people who 'look at you in a funny way' - but don't expect them to take it lying down, especially if they are articulate, able to argue their point, and have a video camera.
I think the police handled this badly.
The female officer's observation that the couple were 'jumping on the bandwagon' was insensitive and inappropriate.
If one officer had dealt with the issue, it could have been defused with a lot less fuss, and without the police being made to look confrontational and unreasonable, and have to apologise for their conduct.
A lesson for the police - by all means stop people who 'look at you in a funny way' - but don't expect them to take it lying down, especially if they are articulate, able to argue their point, and have a video camera.
Just heard them on TV. Up in arms, all shocked and tearful about something that is perfectly normal and twisting it to racist. Archbish. Sentamu has been stopped (about something else and sometime ago) and he says he did not see any racism there. Police have this right. In France you were always being asked to provide identity and, by law, had to carry it and insurance note etc. in the car with you. Bit much, but there you go that's how it works so you accept it.
I read on another link that the officer is not unknown to the residents of Suffolk for his oafish approach to his duties and good public relation procedures. May be the Chief Constable could suggest attendance at some seminar of which there are many. The police appear to generate enough unjustified complaints and criticism for doing their duty by the n'er do wells without attracting justifiable complaints.
webbo - // andy Hughes.
\\The police can stop anyone and ask for their documents and proof of who they are - but in the current climate, a degree of tact and diplomacy would have been appropriate in an instance like this.//
so the police are not to stop black people at the moment. //
A classic example of the 'So' Rule - for new initiates, the So Rule refers to a post where someone starts their post with the word 'So …' and the proceeds to reply to something the original poster did not say, and then argue with them about it.
webbo, I did not say that the police are not to stop black people at the moment, because that would be absurd.
What I did say was, if the police are stopping anyone, handle the stop with appropriate sensitivity to current situations, and don't inflame already upset citizens with uncalled for and inflammatory remarks.
Are we clear now?
Hope so.
\\The police can stop anyone and ask for their documents and proof of who they are - but in the current climate, a degree of tact and diplomacy would have been appropriate in an instance like this.//
so the police are not to stop black people at the moment. //
A classic example of the 'So' Rule - for new initiates, the So Rule refers to a post where someone starts their post with the word 'So …' and the proceeds to reply to something the original poster did not say, and then argue with them about it.
webbo, I did not say that the police are not to stop black people at the moment, because that would be absurd.
What I did say was, if the police are stopping anyone, handle the stop with appropriate sensitivity to current situations, and don't inflame already upset citizens with uncalled for and inflammatory remarks.
Are we clear now?
Hope so.
sanmac - // Webbo, Webbo, Webbo, you used the word "so', and that's a no no doncha know? //
We cross-posted, but for reference, using the word 'so' is not a problem, using it as the opening to a post that says something the original poster did not say, and then criticising them for it, is a problem.
We cross-posted, but for reference, using the word 'so' is not a problem, using it as the opening to a post that says something the original poster did not say, and then criticising them for it, is a problem.
retocop - // I read on another link that the officer is not unknown to the residents of Suffolk for his oafish approach to his duties and good public relation procedures. //
In my view, both officers' conduct left plenty to be desired.
As you, and I, and anyone who has dealt with the public on a regular basis knows, you don't defuse a confrontation by talking over the person you are dealing with, being smart-mouthed, and letting your colleague argue simultaneously so each of the aggrieved parties is annoyed even further.
One officer dealing with one individual calmly and politely would have stopped this stupid set-to, and the resultant embarrassment for the officers concerned - and their wider constabulary.
In my view, both officers' conduct left plenty to be desired.
As you, and I, and anyone who has dealt with the public on a regular basis knows, you don't defuse a confrontation by talking over the person you are dealing with, being smart-mouthed, and letting your colleague argue simultaneously so each of the aggrieved parties is annoyed even further.
One officer dealing with one individual calmly and politely would have stopped this stupid set-to, and the resultant embarrassment for the officers concerned - and their wider constabulary.
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