And What If They Dont ?...

[TheWholeTruth]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/black-lives-matter-protesters-must-083956063.html?guccounter=1

Will they be getting down on one knee and asking them in a nice subservient manner to go home, so as not be accused of racism or anything ?....god forbid they dont kow tow to minority demands...

[Bobbisox1]

Saw this earlier and felt so sad because it’s true TWT

https://ibb.co/ynwjWRZ

[naomi24]

If any of them get hurt I trust none will have the audacity to turn up at Guys Hospital expecting to benefit from the spoils of history.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8412093/Guys-hospital-London-remove-statues-slave-trading-benefactor.html

[dannyk13]

//Will they be getting down on one knee and asking them in a nice subservient manner to go home,//
Two days ago Boris said that any protesters rioting etc would be traced and locked up within 24 hours.

[pixie374]

I'm sure we can all see the difference between a hospital that saves lives and a statue to celebrate an individual. This is why I have never liked statues of people- nobody is perfect.

[Bobbisox1]

Two young men stood guard for hours at Whitby to protect the statue of Captain Cook after it was vandalised

[naomi24]

//a statue to celebrate an individual//

... who founded the hospital. Cause to celebrate him? No?

[pixie374]

Cause to celebrate the hospital, yes. Not necessarily the individual...

[Bobbisox1]

Most rioters are cowards Danny, normally wearing a near full face covering [ hope that stops the spread of C-19] and will be hard to identify

[tiggerblue10]

I was all for the BLM but this is becoming absurd now. The agenda has taken a dangerous path.

[webbo3]

Im guessing the police will take a knee and ask them nicely.

[Bobbisox1]

Especially handing an open invitation to white supremacists in the mix Tiggs

[Bobbisox1]

I hope it as wet there as it is here then Webbo
Take to the knee indeed !

[tiggerblue10]

Yes, extremists from both sides, Bobbi.

What the hell happened to the #BeKind movement??

[naomi24]

//Cause to celebrate the hospital, yes. Not necessarily the individual... //

An individual without whom the hospital wouldn't exist. Removing his statue whilst continuing to benefit from the spoils of what common sense should now confine to the realms of unforgettable but immutable history is the height of hypocrisy.

[pixie374]

Hardly. We can all like some things that someone does, but not everything. It's silly to suggest otherwise.

[jim360]

The concept of building hospitals doesn't belong to one person. If not him, some other hospital would have existed, either literally in its place or elsewhere.

The idea, too, that we can either celebrate the person or not use his hospital is also nonsensical.

[jim360]

Indeed, one might argue it runs counter to his vision anyway. Either:

1. Thomas Guy built the hospital to be used as a hospital, not as a monument to him, or;
2. Thomas Guy built the hospital as a tribute to his own magnificence, and only those who kiss his statue's feet are deemed worthy of receiving the care therein; in which case, he has dubious motives that shouldn't be honoured.

I'm pretty sure it's the former: the statue and the hospital are separate.

[pixie374]

A statue to represent the hospital... and "founded by..." would make much more sense.

[Old_Geezer]

But someone else didn't found it. Plus if they did they'd be taking their statue down now instead. If they don't respect their founder, can we believe that they respect anyone ?

[pixie374]

OG, people can do both good and bad things. They are human. You can celebrate an achievement without condoning everything else.