Presidential Campaign Songs

[tiggerblue10]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53208593

Surely this is a copyright issue. Do campaigners seek authorisation before using songs for their rallies? Not sure how it works tbh.

[drmorgans]

I can see the Stable Genius pronouncing "never liked them, worst rock n roll band ever"

[douglas9401]

Prez shrugs, does his best Mussolini chin thrust, does that finger and thumb thing with his small hands, inhales another burger and forgets it ever happened.

[pastafreak]

And this isn't the first time, is it?

[ichkeria]

I’m surprised he went for “Can’t always get what you want”
Sort of sums up his presidency

[KARL]

I believe it has to do with "public broadcast". Playing anything in private is one thing, doing so across large crowds or generally in the open is (often/usually) defined as a public broadcast which then, yes, enters the arena of copyright protection. Another angle is the use of copyright material in advertising, and a copyrighted recording (and much else) being formed into apolitical slogan is again a copyright matter. The concept of intellectual property (one on which the USA postures as a "champion of rights") alone, copyrighted or not, is likely also to be cited in a case like this. Even a private individual with no copyright, artistic product or intellectual property at stake could plausibly raise an objection to being used in an advertising/campaign sort of way - consider if a photograph of that person were to be used over and over again by Trump, Putin, Orbán, Erdoghan or others to symbolise what they and their supporters are opposed to (China, LGBT, foreigners, Kurds, somebody/anything). It is the act of ,contrary to the owner's stated wish/will, appropriating something belonging to someone in order to promote a position/view/agenda that is likely to place the one who takes the liberty in a position of guilt.

[Gromit]

♬ Don't wanna be an American idiot
Don't want a nation under the new mania
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind-*** America

Well maybe I'm the faggot America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody do the propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoia

[Ken4155]

From the entertainment website 'Deadline':

"The Trump campaign holds a Political Entities Licence which authorises the performance of over 15M musical works in BMI's repertoire, wherever political campaigns occur.
"There is a provision, however, that allows BMI to exclude musical works from the license if the songwriter or publisher objects to it's use by a campaign."

[gulliver1]

Karl 11.52 , seem to rember PRS, "Performing Rights Society " UK , was that similar. ?.

[KARL]

Gulliver, I don't know.

[gulliver1]

Thanks Karl.

[roopower]

The Rolling Stones don't appear to be too flattered Trump uses their music, apparently.

[youngmafbog]

Ah, a leftie anti Trump love in!

[Mamyalynne]

He has supporters in the Music business, he should be original and get them to pen him some ditties.

[KARL]

Gulliver, Googling suggests PRS was/is more concerned with income/payment of royalties for public performance (covers, playing recordings, etc.) than decision/control over how/when the music/other is used/performed.

[KARL]

youngmafbog, really.......

[ichkeria]

“Leftie Trump blah blah blah”

And why not?
Why should John Bolton, PJ O’Rourke, Mitt Romney and countless other republicans have it all it themselves :-)

[Peter Pedant]

well if he is not re elected - then
I cant get no - - satisfaction
would be appropriate innit?

[Mamyalynne]

Not if The Stones have a say in it, innit?

[douglas9401]

Much Sympathy For The Devil we see.

[ynnafymmi]

@15.14.Back in 1967 some journalist interviewed Mick Jagger and later reported that instead of some rebellious left-wing street-fighting anarchist,Jagger came across as a tight-fisted authoritarian right-wing money-grubbing Tory.