Another Crazy Rule From Government

[teacake44]

You can have a wedding, but not with more than 30 people attending, including catering staff. But you can have 250 people crammed onto a plane for 2/3 hours to fly away on holiday, and another 2/3 hours return. With those sort of rules in place we will all be back in lockdown.

[dannyk13]

TC, where did you get the figure 250?
https://www.euractiv.com/section/aviation/news/eu-air-safety-agency-urges-masks-social-distancing-for-flights/

[emmie]

its all rather complicated isn't it...

[teacake44]

There's guidelines and rules, one is set in concrete, the other is not, besides people have been telling me on here for 4 months that masks don't make any difference. :0)

[dannyk13]

TC, masks make a difference in that they prevent the wearer spreading germs.

[teacake44]

You're telling me something I've known since the beginning of the virus?

[dannyk13]

Glad that you agree on something.

[teacake44]

Would you agree then that the rule up above is crazy then?

[dannyk13]

No.

[ummmm]

250 people are not crammed onto a plane. Guidelines are followed.

At weddings people tend to know each other, stand closer together, not wear masks, shake hands, cuddle etc etc. I think a plane would be safer plus they have the added extra of being able to disinfect the recirculated air.

[teacake44]

Why?

[dannyk13]

Because I agree with ummmm above

[teacake44]

Guidelines only, airlines have already said that flights are not profitable unless they are full, so guidelines will go out of the window. People will be close together when the pubs open 1 metre now, your getting on a plane with strangers, compared to family at a wedding so the chances are they will be a lot more careful, and know if anyone is ill before the day??

[teacake44]

11.59 Lets say you haven't really got a valid answer danny, neither has the government.

[gulliver1]

12.03 A sensible Government would think the plan out first then decide T/C/ .
This shower decide first, then think it out after.

[drmorgans]

Then ignore their own advice if it doesn't suit them.

[Prudie]

I don't agree with you either - the air filtering system on a plane is way more sophisticated than needed to trap the virus and as long as surfaces are wiped I don't see an issue -I've always wiped down the seats, tables and screens on a flight long before this started.
And as I recall you went on and on about masks yes - but claimed they stopped you catching it not spreading it.

[Mamyalynne]

It's quite simple really, either accept/decline the Wedding invite and go/don't go on a plane depending on your level of concern and having read up on the guidelines.

[New Judge]

//TC, where did you get the figure 250?//

Easy. The Airbus A380 is certified to carry up to 868 passengers. Most popular configurations seat 600 or thereabouts. Running at half capacity (which no operator will unless they double the fares) means 300 people.

But, put simply, air travel and "social distancing" are mutually exclusive. There is no way the guidance can be complied with. So, you either abandon the guidance or kill the industry (which is already severely damaged). It's as simple as that.

Ditto weddings. You cannot expect people to stay distanced at weddings and they won't. So once again you either outlaw them entirely or just let people get on with it. Fannying about with limiting numbers, limiting activities, etc. just will not work. The country needs to get real and decise what it wants to do.

[ichkeria]

Personally I think it’s the wedding rules that are dafter.
Hong Kong is one of the most densely populated places on the planet, and has not had any sort of lockdown. And yet there have been hardly any deaths. Possibly because of the wearing of masks which I am not a fan of but which might actually indicate that at close quarters those flight rules are not really so awful

[archibaldy]

"Because X is allowed then Y should be allowed" isn't necessarily how the rules are worked out. In some cases it's "If X is allowed then Y must be restricted" to balance the overall risk out even if there is association between the activities.