Why Do Illegal Immigrants Not Apply For Asylum In The E U S S R?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53723687
We are always being told by the anti British and LibFac hordes that UK is the lowest of the low and heaven lies across the channel. Why then do thousands risk death to get to this "terrible" country. Surely they should apply for asylum in the utopia they are already in. France ain't too bad is it?

[Jackdaw33]

France isn't as soft as us when dishing out freebies.

[Bobbisox1]

Just watching it on sky news Tora , the smugglers are only putting enough fuel in these dinghies to get their 'prey' into British waters and as for France asking the British for millions of pounds ??? It's almost laughable

[ToraToraTora]

Even the law of the EUSSR says they must apply in the first safe country so why are they not enforcing their own laws? and their borders?

[fiction-factory]

Some will have friends and family here.
Some have a reasonable grasp of the English language.
Others may be fall for the sales pitch of people smugglers.
Some may be being trafficked here to work in gangs or restaurants. Some may aspire to living here because of things like our football teams, music.
Some will have heard stories of how we will look after them on arrival.
There will be other reasons too.

[Chinajan]

// We are always being told by the anti British and LibFac hordes that UK is the lowest of the low and heaven lies across the channel //

No we are not. Please try not to base your assertions on false premises.

[jim360]

There are several problems with this question. Firstly, I don't think criticising flaws in a country is the same as regarding it as "the lowest of the low" -- ditto the argument for having stayed in the EU, which was, to my mind at least, about benefitting everybody (the EU will undoubtedly be weaker without us).

Secondly, quite a lot of the migrants *do* apply in other countries, most notably France, Spain, Germany, Italy, and Greece. The UK came behind all of these in 2018, and tied with Greece in 2019.

[ToraToraTora]

jim, any idea why the EUSSR do not enforce their "first safe country" law?

[ToraToraTora]

answer removed already? Must be a LibFac!

[gulliver1]

Probably , just like the old china's They do not want have their lives controlled by the E/U.

[jim360]

Danny posted this elsewhere, but the "first safe country" law isn't a thing.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/refugees-first-safe-country/

[Old_Geezer]

"the EU, which was, to my mind at least, about benefitting everybody"

That was what the Common Market was about. Keeping to the trade arena. The European Union was about central control of many nations from an unelected elite. That's most of what has caused them a problem.

[jim360]

Slight error in my post at 10:27, we we (more or less) tied with Italy in 2019, rather than Greece.

[ToraToraTora]

fair enough Jim, I thought the UN suggestion was incorporated into the EUSSR statute. First time I've seen anything saying it wasn't.

[brainiac]

What has happened to the roughly 4,000 who have been so kindly escorted to our shores so far this year?

[Old_Geezer]

They're still not refugees after they've found refuge. If the courts believe differently then either they're misinterpreting, or the law has been sloppily written.

[ToraToraTora]

probably disappeared brainiac!

[ToraToraTora]

wrong thread ^^^

[KARL]

Some of the explanations on here are to the point. I can't remember for certain but I think it was the French foreign minister at the time who within the past 10 years or so said on camera that, yes, they (the French) also wish the problem of immigrants and traffickers conspiring to illegally enter the UK didn't exist. He then added with obvious exasperation "If only the British had a system" then this problem would be manageable. I think I understand what he meant but when I once tried to discuss it with someone well up in the UK establishment it transpired that that person could not imagine anything being wrong on the UK and I gave up. Isn't there a saying somewhere implying something like those who grow up in limited conditions can't imagine anything else....or something of that nature ?