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Anyone Downloaded The Coronvirus App?
I haven't and I doubt that I will.
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From the NHS “Testing & Tracing” page: ---- If you test positive for coronavirus (COVID-19), you can help the NHS contact people who may have caught the virus from you. ***What happens if you test positive*** After you get a positive test result, you may be contacted by NHS Test and Trace. You'll be asked for information about where you've been recently and who...
15:04 Tue 29th Sep 2020
yes I am one of the ten million
to comment on the - - let em all DDDIIIIIIEEEEE ! thread - full of let it all burn out ( them ) and I wil be OK
I echo the Newcastle student on curfew - "we have been told it will saves a few lives and all it means to us is a few pints - no brainer really"
and how many finkers av said that on AB - yes !
and so what if the tax man knows I went to Mme Foo's and had er a blow out? er Chinese meal that is !
take it off when it all goes away - some skool boy will come up with a coronavirus uninstaller
to comment on the - - let em all DDDIIIIIIEEEEE ! thread - full of let it all burn out ( them ) and I wil be OK
I echo the Newcastle student on curfew - "we have been told it will saves a few lives and all it means to us is a few pints - no brainer really"
and how many finkers av said that on AB - yes !
and so what if the tax man knows I went to Mme Foo's and had er a blow out? er Chinese meal that is !
take it off when it all goes away - some skool boy will come up with a coronavirus uninstaller
oh Bednobs stop clutching the bedknob wiv one hand and clutching your bazoom with the other and screaming ......
clearly you have got out of the wrong side of the bed .....
discussion on BB ( 1984 and all that ) if you er read the posts before blaaarting - - - - now why do that - this is AB !
esp the implied idea that once downloaded they will have access to your buying habits - - - for ever ! - - this is a theme in a prog called The Wire. Snowden and the Crying angel program
I am sure BN you cd tire the saints by a contribution to one of those old ( does God exist ) threads
clearly you have got out of the wrong side of the bed .....
discussion on BB ( 1984 and all that ) if you er read the posts before blaaarting - - - - now why do that - this is AB !
esp the implied idea that once downloaded they will have access to your buying habits - - - for ever ! - - this is a theme in a prog called The Wire. Snowden and the Crying angel program
I am sure BN you cd tire the saints by a contribution to one of those old ( does God exist ) threads
it's not a discussion on BB, it's one ABer thinking that the fact he hasn't downloaded an app is "news" (perhaps I could invite YOU read it? and answer the question that is asked as you keep telling me to). We don't even know why he hasn't down loaded it - (perhaps he doesn't have enough data? or space?)
Maybe it will tirn into a discussion about big brother, but is that news?
Maybe it will tirn into a discussion about big brother, but is that news?
Found this on Facebook, here is who David Bonsall is
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David Bonsall
25 September at 23:03 ·
On the NHS COVID-19 App: Last 24 hrs I’ve provided the polite version of the following to C4, ITV,BBC, Radio 5, Sky News, Times Radio, LBC. I thought I’d answer a few frequently asked questions more directly, while our communications officer isn’t watching. ** edit at bottom for solution to the minority of tests that didn't link to the app. Spoiler, they do now!**
Is it going to steal my data?
- No its completely private. All your data stays on the phone, if you delete the app, you delete the data. Facebook, on the other hand...
Is it going to track me?
- No it doesn’t know where you are. Uber, Dominos pizza, google maps, on the other hand...
Is Dominic Cummings...
- No
Why has it taken so long?
- It was hard. We tested it, made it better, tested it again, made it better, now it’s ready. And we helped Google develop their system. And we beat most states in America
How many people need to download it to work?
- Two. If you download it and I download it and I get infected and I notify you and you don’t visit your gran, Granny lives
What happens if we all download it?
- Maths shows it could stop the epidemic.
But Dominic Cummings...
- Just no
Why did the Isle of Wight app not work?
- Actually it did. It looks like it stopped their epidemic. There were problems with iPhones.
Are there not still problems with iPhones
- Yes. The few people with iphones earlier than 6S should write Apple and complain. If you have a later version you should download the app, stop the epidemic, and save the old folks with outdated smartphones.
What about the fines for not following the notifications? Those aren’t fair!
- What about the local outbreak and deaths you could cause by not following them? also what about the £500 you receive if you get notified and can’t work from home? (*DHSC now announced fines are “not enforceable” ...because it’s so private!)
Yeah but “False Positives”...
- The only way you can get a notification is by being close to someone who tests positive for COVID-19 for a prolonged period.
Yeah but its not 100% accurate at measuring distance so there are false positives
- Do you think the virus cares if it’s 2 meters or 2.3 meters?
Yeah but...
-If I asked you to remember all your 2meter 15minute contacts in the last 3 days would you give me an accurate answer? Where’s your tape measure and your stop watch?
So is it more accurate than manual contact tracing?
-Yes probably. And it can notify people you don’t know.
How else is it better?
- well it’s a lot more private - you don’t need to give personal details about you or anyone else
Anything else?
- it uses computers so it’s fast enough to find people BEFORE they infect others...which is sort of the point.
Anything else?
- it doesn’t require millions of netflix subscriptions.
Anything else?
- It’s a quick way to check in to bars (I like bars) and it’s a faster way to book a test without navigating a website designed by a Vogon
There are no tests?
- Fair point. Not my department. But will keep the pressure on.
Its not a silver bullet is it? It’s just a cherry on the cake?
- No. If we all download it, it’s A GOLD-PLATED MISSILE, which relatively speaking cost one-thousandth of a cherries worth of cake, compared to another lockdown.
Is it going to work?
- not unless you download it.....give it a go. It’s really rather good.
(And well done to our group at Oxford, Alan Turing Institute, department of health, NHSX, Google, Pivotal, Zuhlke, and beyond who’ve all contributed...it’s been a long time coming...and it’s something to be proud of. Well done!)
**Edit from the App team: "Everyone who receives a positive test result can now log their result on the #NHSCOVID19app A minority of people, such as hospital patients, who were unable to log their positive result will now be able to request a code when contact
https:/
David Bonsall
25 September at 23:03 ·
On the NHS COVID-19 App: Last 24 hrs I’ve provided the polite version of the following to C4, ITV,BBC, Radio 5, Sky News, Times Radio, LBC. I thought I’d answer a few frequently asked questions more directly, while our communications officer isn’t watching. ** edit at bottom for solution to the minority of tests that didn't link to the app. Spoiler, they do now!**
Is it going to steal my data?
- No its completely private. All your data stays on the phone, if you delete the app, you delete the data. Facebook, on the other hand...
Is it going to track me?
- No it doesn’t know where you are. Uber, Dominos pizza, google maps, on the other hand...
Is Dominic Cummings...
- No
Why has it taken so long?
- It was hard. We tested it, made it better, tested it again, made it better, now it’s ready. And we helped Google develop their system. And we beat most states in America
How many people need to download it to work?
- Two. If you download it and I download it and I get infected and I notify you and you don’t visit your gran, Granny lives
What happens if we all download it?
- Maths shows it could stop the epidemic.
But Dominic Cummings...
- Just no
Why did the Isle of Wight app not work?
- Actually it did. It looks like it stopped their epidemic. There were problems with iPhones.
Are there not still problems with iPhones
- Yes. The few people with iphones earlier than 6S should write Apple and complain. If you have a later version you should download the app, stop the epidemic, and save the old folks with outdated smartphones.
What about the fines for not following the notifications? Those aren’t fair!
- What about the local outbreak and deaths you could cause by not following them? also what about the £500 you receive if you get notified and can’t work from home? (*DHSC now announced fines are “not enforceable” ...because it’s so private!)
Yeah but “False Positives”...
- The only way you can get a notification is by being close to someone who tests positive for COVID-19 for a prolonged period.
Yeah but its not 100% accurate at measuring distance so there are false positives
- Do you think the virus cares if it’s 2 meters or 2.3 meters?
Yeah but...
-If I asked you to remember all your 2meter 15minute contacts in the last 3 days would you give me an accurate answer? Where’s your tape measure and your stop watch?
So is it more accurate than manual contact tracing?
-Yes probably. And it can notify people you don’t know.
How else is it better?
- well it’s a lot more private - you don’t need to give personal details about you or anyone else
Anything else?
- it uses computers so it’s fast enough to find people BEFORE they infect others...which is sort of the point.
Anything else?
- it doesn’t require millions of netflix subscriptions.
Anything else?
- It’s a quick way to check in to bars (I like bars) and it’s a faster way to book a test without navigating a website designed by a Vogon
There are no tests?
- Fair point. Not my department. But will keep the pressure on.
Its not a silver bullet is it? It’s just a cherry on the cake?
- No. If we all download it, it’s A GOLD-PLATED MISSILE, which relatively speaking cost one-thousandth of a cherries worth of cake, compared to another lockdown.
Is it going to work?
- not unless you download it.....give it a go. It’s really rather good.
(And well done to our group at Oxford, Alan Turing Institute, department of health, NHSX, Google, Pivotal, Zuhlke, and beyond who’ve all contributed...it’s been a long time coming...and it’s something to be proud of. Well done!)
**Edit from the App team: "Everyone who receives a positive test result can now log their result on the #NHSCOVID19app A minority of people, such as hospital patients, who were unable to log their positive result will now be able to request a code when contact
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