Which Way Do You Think The Vote Will Go?

[Bobbisox1]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-boris-johnson-tells-tory-mps-tiered-restrictions-have-sunset-of-3-february-12145525

As much as I don't think anyone could of done any better or any worse than Boris Johnson in such exceptional circumstances, how can a date like Feb 3rd be just plucked out of the air ?

[jim360]

He's choosing a date because of political, rather than Scientific or health, considerations. There are too many Tories he feels a need to placate, although why I don't know, given that Labour is on board.

[emmie]

so they did a sensible thing, good for them

[ichkeria]

“ There are too many Tories he feels a need to placate, although why I don't know”

Because he’s a crowd pleaser. That’s obvious.
The doubt isn’t that the vote will pass but what may be tweaked beforehand

[New Judge]

//Corbyn would have sent all the vaccines to his friends in the Middle East.//

Which vaccines would they be, then? You may not have noticed, but it’s all gone a bit quiet since the euphoria of a couple of weeks ago.

The last couple of weeks have seen classic Covid political shenanigans. The public has been wooed with the promise of a vaccine (yet to be delivered); it has been softened up by the promise of the lockdown ending, only to see something similar in all but name put it place; it has been promised a relaxation at Christmas but threatened that if it does not behave sensibly it will be sent to the Naughty Step in January by means of another lockdown; they have been promised a review of their allocated “Tiers” in a couple of weeks' time, whilst one of the scientists suggests that it is “unthinkable” that anywhere will be placed into Tier One and that those in Tier Three can expect to stay there; pubs and restaurants have been closed for a month, many of them to stay that way either because they are in Tier Three or they’ve gone skint, but shops will be allowed to open for a 24/7 bunfight in the run up to Christmas.

Now it’s hinted (in order to get Tory MPs onside) that the “Tiers” may end (again) in February. Well, dear readers, they ended on 5th November. And a lot of good that did.

The PM will win his vote in the Commons. Many Tory "rebels" will cave in and in any case Labour will support the measure. But it wouldn't particularly matter if it was lost. These measures are all brought in by Statutory Instrument and a way to bypass the inconvenience of the need for Parliamentary approval will be found.

[steg]

Nj //Which vaccines would they be, then? You may not have noticed, but it’s all gone a bit quiet since the euphoria of a couple of weeks ago. //

This was 4 hours ago

NHS hospitals have been told to be ready to deploy a coronavirus vaccine from as early as Wednesday this week, according to sources speaking to The Daily Telegraph.

Sources said trusts ‘have been asked to mobilise’, amid widespread anticipation that the Pfizer vaccine will get regulatory approval this week.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/coronavirus-vaccine-approved-uk-who-23090251

[New Judge]

//NHS hospitals have been told to be ready to deploy a coronavirus vaccine from as early as Wednesday this week, according to sources speaking to The Daily Telegraph.//

Yes I heard that on the news this morning, steg. The proof of the pudding, and all that. That said, I'd be absolutely delighted to see the vaccine approved. All it needs then is for the authorities to get the logistics in place to actually administer it before it goes off and the public to pitch up in sufficient numbers to receive it. Early days, I fancy.

[emmie]

its a start then

[grumpy01]

Haven’t seen or heard the MHRA has passed any vaccines for use as yet,so doubt if they will be ready for Wednesday.Also our M.P. has asked for evidence why our area has risen from Tier 1 to Tier 2 when the infections haven’t risen enough to justify largely shutting down the hospitality sector in our area.

[weecalf]

Don’t understand why the vote .If the wonderful goverment and Boris have decided it’s best why a vote . Is it to give the well paid mps something to do .

[ichkeria]

Well that is what MPs are for after all.

[emmie]

well paid MP's chokes on cornflakes. or similar. I wouldn;t have their jobs for love nor money.

[dave50]

I hope he loses the vote but labour will support the controls because socialists like state control.

[ichkeria]

The vote will not be lost.
And well said Emmie about MPs :-)

[eve1974]

Apparently Isle of Man TT race for 2021 already cancelled? That’s next summer. So what’s that about? Does this mean a lot of people expect covid to still be rampant

[ichkeria]

The Isle of Man declare itself virus-free some while back, and they are evidenty keen to keep it that way. So the TT in late May-early June is probably too soon dfor them to risk it.
Lots of things are bound to be cancelled in 2021 I'm afraid.

[woofgang]

which date would you have liked to be chosen? All that is needed is a date that is long enough after christmas to be able to bite down on any christmas spike; but not so long that it will make people restless. so yes....pretty much pulled out of the air but for good reason.

[woofgang]

the vaccine isn't yet approved and I don't see it coming any time very soon....but if you don't tell people to be ready well ahead of time they won't do it.

[jourdain2]

Well, I think that the Labour Party in charge would be worse (look at Wales), but unfortunately they are likely to help the Govt. pass this horrible measure. It's worse than lockdown for us. I will become a criminal if I do my normal shopping (nearest shopping area is in N. Yorks. and I am 1 mile into E. Yorks.) and keep my hairdressing appointment - I've been waiting so long for that. I shall go anyway because to do otherwise would mean I have to travel a lot further (pollution anyone and minimising driving?)and use a much more crowded supermarket and shops in an area with much higher local cases. Fingers crossed. I've written to the local Conservative party and pointed this out. For some reason we have been lumped in with Hull - over an hour away!

I don't believe Feb. 3rd has any significance - I don't believe a word anyone says any more, quite honestly. I will take responsibility for my health and that of OH........... and that of others as I never go near anyone.

[New Judge]

//If the wonderful goverment and Boris have decided it’s best why a vote . Is it to give the well paid mps something to do .//

There is a vote because finally and reluctantly the PM and his ministers have understood that this country is not ruled by Ministerial diktat. They have finally accepted that before jeopardising businesses and livelihoods the electorates representatives should have the opportunity to scrutinise the proposals. Believe me, they wouldn’t do so voluntarily.

//…but if you don't tell people to be ready well ahead of time they won't do it.//

And sometimes even if you do they won’t.

[woofgang]

jourdain2 "and that of others as I never go near anyone."....except the prople in the shops and the hairdresser?