Trump’s Pardons May Be Dropping Him In The Mire

[Hymie]

Muller heavily suggested that trump dangled the offer of pardons for those who refused to testify (against trump) in his enquiry. Now that has come to pass – it strengths the case for obstruction of justice once he leaves office.

Although Biden has indicated he will not pursue Trump for his criminal activity while in office – the tax investigation of his son (Hunter Biden) may make him change his mind on that.

[tonyav]

He's a bit busy at the moment, accusing fashion mags of fake news.
https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/trump-hails-melania-greatest-first-lady-of-all-time-despite-zero-magazine-covers/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3cbGyBNS4vK-idviIBAcecY-2vu9oRRjH3BUAaNDDUp7zooLh4vQPUvi0

[jno]

‘Their loss. They could have sold more copies than they ever have. Melania is the prettiest, most gracious and intelligent First Lady in US history; only fitting as she is matched with the most humorous, brilliant, big hearted Husband in our history.’

My word.

[Sunk]

It is probably right that a new administration should not litigated the previous one no matter how much evidence there is to support it.
But I reckon Trump is vulnerable to several, probably hundreds of private prosecutions from Americans.

[Peter Pedant]

embarassing bit where Ivanka said here father was interested in womens right and had fought harder than anyone for them

and the audience laughed

and wiv all der complaints about presidential pardon misuse
I note that no one has said
and of course President Biden will change all that !

[Peter Pedant]

// It is probably right that a new administration should not litigated the previous one no matter how much evidence there is to support it.//

well when a minister resigned 1800-1830 the auditor went froo da books and surcharged him for misuse
Banks 1801 got screwed for £1000 ( thats a lodda lodda moolah!) and the last impeachment here was Melville for misuse of treasury funds

( there are crazies in America who are originalists - the carnstitootion is unchanging from 1791 - of whom the trump appointees are all originalists - v conservative change ever)

[Peter Pedant]

knickers
very conservative
no change ever

[ichkeria]

“ only fitting as she is matched with the most humorous, brilliant, big hearted Husband in our history.”

She’s obviously a bigamist as well.
Biden should not pursue Trump. There is enough to do as it is.
Doubtless others will

[Peter Pedant]

Icth
time will tell

they have a big deal about loss and locus standi which we really dont have under JR
that is - if you are not touched by XYZ you cant bring a case about it

Gina Miller just marched ito court and said I dont like - er something

[Khandro]

Trump hasn't quite finished yet, I'm standing by for something big in the last days of office.
I would like to see him pardon Julien Assange for one.

[Hymie]

Trump has said that he could pardon himself – he could only do that if he had been convicted of something (not some future conviction); some doubt he has the constitutional right to do so.

The same would apply to Assange, although no doubt he could apply pressure behind the scenes for the USA to drop the extradition request.

[ichkeria]

I can’t see why he’d do that.
All his pardons appear to have to do with people close to his own machinations.
And they’re all Murrican criminals :-)

[Quizmonster]

09.16 "I would like to see him pardon Julian Assange for one."
Perish the thought! The latter deserves to face at least ONE of the various charges he has faced. I know their case has been legally "terminated", but I still believe the Swedish women deserve to have their accusations heard in court.

[Khandro]

Really? you astound me!

[Quizmonster]

And you me!

[Peter Pedant]

/but I still believe the Swedish women deserve to have their accusations heard in court.//

hi quizmonster dont often see you here
ope the new year is good to you

Not even trump can offer a world pardon
so I am nore sure if an american pardon wd work for the swedish women. - and if he cd pardon someone cd they be extradited?

Did you see the Roman Polanski you tube bit - the leddy who accused him is in regular contact ! - weird - presumably a large cheque is involved somewhere. The thirteen yr old now the 63 y old.

[Quizmonster]

And a happy new year to you, too, PP!
I don't believe the Swedish women I referred to were "paid off". Their cases against Assange seemed to be well-worth a hearing but simply ran out of 'legal' time, mainly because he ran away...as usual.
Accordingly, I cannot quite see the relevance of the Polanski reference.

[Khandro]

After all the mental & Physical experiences he has undergone: "The UN Special Rapporteur on torture, Nils Melzer, has said that Assange shows "typical signs of psychological torture." anyone who would wish Julian Assange to stand trial in Sweden on spurious charges of 'rape', must be a sadist.

[Ellipsis]

Yes, because it's sadistic to bring rapists to justice such a long time after they ran away and hid from it.

[ichkeria]

Trump can’t pardon Assange for rape ;-)
Tho I’d have thought if there was any offence be he’d be inclined to pardon him for it would be that one.
A hypocritical fraudster of the first order is Assange, but if there’s anywhere he should have been sent packing to it was Sweden not the US

[Khandro]

'Without Julian Assange, we would know far less about the US war in Afghanistan. Our picture of the conflict would have remained sanitized, and largely as political leaders would have wanted it to be. But since the 2010 Afghan War documents leak on WikiLeaks — an investigative platform founded by Assange — the world knows about the real inhumanity and duplicity surrounding the war. Indeed, thousands of classified military and intelligence documents were made public that year.

Journalists all over the world have hugely benefited from Assange's WikiLeaks platform since. It allows them to network and reveal the untransparent, illegal and at times even downright criminal activities of political and business elites. So it's really no wonder that high-ranking decision-makers fear this platform. And they're certainly entitled to make use of whichever fair, legal measures exist to fight such revelations — though the steps taken against WikiLeaks founder Assange in recent years are entirely disproportionate.

Melzer [ see above] and a medical team previously visited Assange in jail in May 2019. Back then, they demanded that he be released immediately for both health and legal reasons. Eight months have passed since then but Assange's inhumane prison conditions still have not improved.

Thanks to the initiative of Germany's most famous investigative journalist Günter Wallraff, an appeal for Assange's release was published in German daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on Thursday. It was signed by 130 prominent German figures, including former German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel, who on Thursday told reporters in Berlin that the United Kingdom ought to free Assange.'