The Govt Handling Of Covid............

[10ClarionSt]

..............is manipulative and alarmist, meant to frighten people. And it's succeeded mainly. Back in April, the figures were the number of deaths from Covid. Then, the figures dropped in summer. When the figures started to rise again in September, we had a different interpretation. It was the number of infections that was published. That sounds more serious doesn't it? A few thousand infections but only a few deaths. Let's go down the infections route. It's more alarming. But even the death figure is inaccurate as it shows only deaths within 28 days of a positive test. That's great Mssrs Whitty and Valance! It's just what we need to frighten the people into mass inactivity. I know, I know. It hasn't worked so far and the figures are still rising but at least we're frightening the tish out of everyone aren't we?
Just call me Boris Canute. I can turn the tide.

[teacake44]

Well whats you're tactics then? unless you've not noticed no one across the whole world has come up with a new tactic, so I would be more that interested in hearing you'res.

[naomi24]

Margie,//Had a break for a few days because of all the covid threads, think I will now have another, longer one. //

You're not alone. I know someone else who's keeping away because of the daily doses of misery and moaning that are constantly being dished up here - in fact I post less frequently myself these days. Gloom and doom I can do without.

[jim360]

How do you intend address the families of the millions who have already died? Are those just acceptable collateral damage? Do you not realise how much worse it would have been had people not taken the threat seriously at all? How much worse it could still be, if it comes to that.

Doom and Gloom it is not. Realism tells us that we should face up to threats, not sweep them under the carpet, nor hide behind "cure is worse than the disease" baloney. It ain't worse for those who die from it, or those who catch it and suffer lasting damage.

[teacake44]

13.01 You may as well have another break from it, because all you've done with that post is way over cook, what we've been asked to do. If you have little to do and you're that confident in you not catching it, hospitals are crying out for cleaners, and because you're so confident you won't have to use any of their PPE when working there.

[pixie374]

Mine, teacake? I'm not claiming to have the answers, but it's also clear when something has stopped working.
As I said, maybe stricter rules, fines, punishments were needed.
For teenagers, uni students... offer to pay them to be tagged to stay in. It would still have saved lives and money, and perhaps been more appropriate for them than "you might die". Teenagers are invincible...
I suspect there were thousands of options, except we chose just to scare as many people as possible. Sometimes, saving lives is more important than testing how many people have the same priorities as you.

[emmie]

i confess that i have posted before but i have enough problems going on without this

[teacake44]

13.09 bye then, but of course when you decide its ok to start a thread ,it will be ok then.

[naomi24]

Yes, teacake, it will.

[pixie374]

Teacake, people can post as and when they like.

[teacake44]

13.16 How do you know its not working? the new strain has increased the infection, not the government.

[pixie374]

What isn't "working" is scaring everyone into compliance. It works for some and not others.

[emmie]

as i have said before 65 million souls and many haven't, won't ever comply whatever laws, rulings are put in place.

[teacake44]

I don't see any scaring, only facts and figures being put out, and the situation at present, also up to date progress on the vaccine.

[jim360]

Yes, and as I've said before, you don't need 100% compliance to bring the situation under greater control. The vast majority of UK citizens will abide by the rules; set the rules sensibly, therefore, and it will be enough to change the trajectory of this. If the rules are inadequate, then that's a more significant factor than a minority of those not sticking to them.

[pixie374]

That's kind of what I'm saying, emmie. We have only tried the "stick". Which is especially weak for those healthy, young, cynical etc. Maybe we should have tried the carrot, with some parts of the population.

[emmie]

to be effective it has to be the majority surely and with the best will in the world that isn't going to happen -

[teacake44]

13.21 pixie, I'm not saying they can't post, just don't knock some ones post on covid because you yourself are fed up with such, then start one at a later date when it takes you're mood, and expect others to take interest.

[naomi24]

People telling us all to ‘be afraid’ and banging on about the millions who have already died when in fact worldwide the figure is under 2 million - and no mention of the 46 plus million who have recovered. Yes, it’s gloom and doom mongering. No other words for it.

[naomi24]

Teacake, your interest in my posts is neither here nor there to me. Wind your neck in for once.

[teacake44]

My neck will always be out, if you're about, especially when you try to dictate to others posting.