The Uk Wants To Extend Time Between Doses

[pastafreak]

Yet apparently there is no data to support this. All testing was done within the timeframe of a space of 21 days between doses. Should we be concerned?

https://www.ft.com/content/12b887b0-accd-4990-a2f1-689193d0b398

[bobbinwales]

Am sure this was covered in depth on a thread a while ago. Will have a look. The argument is you get twice as many to get the first shot which gets 80% of immunity and can wait 60 or 90 days (I've forgot which) for the second shot to get the extra 10% immunity. Its been approved here by scientists not by politicians but will need to find the link

[bobbinwales]

https://www.sps.nhs.uk/articles/dosing-schedule-information-for-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine/

[bobbinwales]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55521451
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55503739

[Sunk]

The Pfzer vaccine is 90% effective on the first dose, and only boosted 4% with the second. So a longer gap than was trialed should be OK.
The Astra/Zeneca one is only 60% effective so I reckon the proper doseage should be followed with that one.

[pastafreak]

Sunk...more like 52% according to this...and it's not the first time I've seen that number.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4826

[naomi24]

No point being concerned. We can only go with the flow.

[teacake44]

The WHO have already advised the UK government against doing this. So much for following the science? ( again)

[Stickybottle]

Either way I’m happy to have just had it, something is better than nothing.

[dannyk13]

TC //So much for following the science? ( again)//
This was discussed this morning on TV and both the scientists present agreed with the break in order that more people could be given some protection.

[teacake44]

The vaccine was passed/ given the go ahead on the bases of two doses, second dose to be given three weeks after the first. As far as I know thats only been changed by this government and their scientists, not the ones that have produced the vaccine.

[dannyk13]

TC, I can only reiterate that it was approved by the scientists advising the PM.

[teacake44]

If the WHO have advised against doing it, then in my opinion the WHO have had information from the producers of the vaccine I would (think) they can only advise the government, not tell .

[pastafreak]

There's the cynic in me that guesses this is because they can't give the second dose when they are struggling just to give the first. So, extend the time frame.
It's just a shame there is no data to back up this as a good and effective idea.

[youngmafbog]

Usual shambles from Hancock and Johnson.

[ToraToraTora]

with the new variant going through the population like a dose of salts I think one dose each makes sense to at least get most of the immunity that's possible in one dose. We can always go round again.

[teacake44]

Only makes sense if it works. To date, no one from the producers of the vaccine have said ya or na to doing this. Why?

[woofgang]

The argument is that its the best way to reduce the risk to the most people and I agree with it. I also think that Jonathan Van Tam is a man of great good common sense and well as professional knowledge and if he supports it then I am inclined to.
Have you got a link to the WHO comment?

[dannyk13]

ymb, at least we are doing better than EU countries.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9118155/EU-countries-face-delays-coronavirus-vaccine-rollout.html

[pastafreak]

Teacake @ 13:00...they have.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-pfizer-second-dose-b1782467.html

Information regarding effectiveness varies also.

[Sqad]

woofy, on a previous thread you said that you couldn't understand the confusion over the Pfizer Covid vaccine strategy.
Some reports say that effective immunity comes from the first injection and other reports (BMJ suggests that it comes from the second (booster jab)
People given the first dose were told in no uncertain terms that it was imperative 5hey had the second dose in ten days and an appointment was made.
Then, their apps was cancelled and told that they would be recalled in 3months.

Now can you see why people are confused?