Obesity Increases The Risk Of Death From The Covid Virus

[Hymie]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9327011/Wake-call-West-experts-call-obesity-clamp-Covid-report.html

According to the report by the World Health Organisation, no country where less than 40% of the population is overweight has covid 19 death rates above 10 per 100,000.
But if all of the persons in those countries who died from covid were underweight/normal weight – then being overweight would seem to protect against death from covid. But we don’t know the obesity rates of those that died, so no conclusion can be drawn other than countries with low obesity rates tend to have lower covid death rates (not that obesity increases the risk of death).

It is known that death rates from covid increase significantly with age, but if older people have a tendency to be overweight, this unsubstantiated conclusion could be incorrectly drawn from the data.

[ToraToraTora]

ok thanks for that.

[barry1010]

I don't know many obese elderly people, in fact I don't know any. Most obese people I know and have seen are under 50.

[dannyk13]

Weight decreases with age so not many elderly people are obese.

[davebro]

Obesity increases the risk of death from all causes (except starvation)!

[bobbinwales]

//then being overweight would seem to protect against death from covid.//
Am not following your points hymie but the above is clearly wrong. Its been said all along that obesity increases your risk but age is of course the major factor and other underlying health issues such as diabetes.

[Sqad]

Barry
///I don't know many obese elderly people, in fact I don't know any. Most obese people I know and have seen are under 50.////

That's because the fat ones tend not to live long enough to get into old age.

[bobbinwales]

Good point squad

[barry1010]

I expect you're right, Sqad, so they are not skewing the data.

[Hymie]

If all the people who died from covid in countries having low obesity rates were underweight/normal weight, and no persons who were obese died due to covid – then it would be incorrect to conclude obesity increases the risk of covid death.

But we don’t know the proportion of those who were obese who died in the above, so no conclusion can be drawn as to the increased risk from covid due to obesity.

[bobbinwales]

Am not sure where your coming from or going apart from up a blind alley.
Obesity is a well known risk factor. Health professionals and health scientist's know the main factors. They dont decide this by compering our national rates with those in another country. They would look at say fit 40-50 year old here compared to obeese ones here.

[Hymie]

bobbinwales: Obesity is a well known risk factor – for what?

[margarettom]

Obesity and diabetes go hand in hand and they are both known to increase the risk of serious illness and death with Covid. The reasoning in this post is completely illogical, the statement from the WHO says it all.

[woofgang]

Hymie, getting covid seriously

[Hymie]

I’m only pointing out that I have seen no scientific proof that obesity increases the risk of death from covid – and pointing out the flaws in the data claiming it does.

[New Judge]

Your argument is rather similar to this:

- Ten percent of road accidents involve people who are over the drink-drive limit.

- So 90% of accidents involve people who are not over the limit.

- So the safest thing you can do to avoid accidents is to get drunk before you drive.

[dave50]

There are a lot of fat people in the UK and they are more at risk of serious illness from covid, that's one of the reasons the death rates are high.

[woofgang]

Hymie its been identified as a risk factor, the same as being male, being of a bame ethnic background, having certain co morbidities and being in older age groups. More people with one or more of those things end up in hospital, end up in ITU and end up dead.

[Apc2604]

I would agree that most off us out on weight as we get older, but apparently we are likely to be at our heaviest in our 50s and then decrease in weight. But most of the overweight people I see are younger and the amount of overweight kids is also high.

[derek-33]

"There are a lot of fat people in the UK and they are more at risk of serious illness from covid, that's one of the reasons the death rates are high."
same goes for the US

[pastafreak]

Hymie @11:03...have you told the scientists doing the research of your conclusions?