Bus Crash

[Canary42]

The Brexit bus has well and truly crashed.

The £3,500 million a week for the NHS hasn't materialised in spite of the Covid crisis, and now the PM has to go begging to the EU for vaccine supplies - so much for taking back control.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56479814

[CrapAtCryptics]

Wonderful, trying to score pathetic points during a pandemic, obviously Brexit has been on the back seat, it will sort itself out in time when people arent dying.

[grumpy01]

No he isn’t begging.He is trying to ensure the contracts we as a country have agreed are fulfilled.This failing leviathan is faltering due to various countries self interest.

[Paigntonian]

Canary: Rollocks.

[emmie]

it was 350 million a week, and they didn't promise this would go to NHS. Why are you so against this government no matter the good they are trying to do.

[Old_Geezer]

a) Nothing has settled down yet, we're clearly still transiting to a new status quo.

b) Because of cov one can not expect extra cash to be presently free to allocate. It would be unreasonable to expect it. Lord knows the Chancellor is spending enough already.

c) No one is begging the EU for anything, other arguably, that they obey the law and treat relationships in good faith. Our contracts are with commercial concerns not the EU; the EU should not threaten to steal others' goods. Besides, I understand the commercial concerns being threatened by the EU need fatty molecules, which are crucial elements, in order to make the vaccine, supplied by a UK company. Elements that could dry up if the UK mimicked similar activity to that which the EU is threatening.

[Hopkirk]

If it wasn't for Brexit we would be in their pathetic vaccine procurement programme. Our economy will be able to restart and rebound earlier as a result.

[cashier]

Don't you think the NHS wastes enough money? They had an extra £6.6 billion last year, and it wasn't promised it was suggested. Am fairly sure it wasn't £3500 million either.

[emmie]

cashier, as i said it was 350 million.....

[ummmm]

Really? People take things written on buses as gospel.

It was 'leave the EU' campaign....simple as that. They were just saying what we'd save and how it could be spent.

[cashier]

I know emmie, i was just pointing out to Canary her figure ws wrong.

[barry1010]

Maybe if Boris wasn't stood in front of the bus that was emblazoned with 'We send the EU £350m each week. Let's fund our NHS instead. Vote Leave' people wouldn't have taken any notice of it.

[New Judge]

I don't suppose you'll respond (you rarely do). However, I don't see anywhere in that article that the PM is "begging" for vaccine supplies from the EU. I think all he is doing is to ask them to desist from acting like a rogue Communist state by threatening to sequestrate supplies which belong to a commercial company thus preventing them fulfilling their contracts. You have to remember that the vaccines in question do not belong to the EU. They do not belong to the Netherlands where they are being produced. They belong to the suppliers. It is scarcely their fault that the EU has exhibited an unbelievable level of ineptitude (even by their standards). There's no reason why, in order to rectify their abject incompetence, that wretched organisation should now invoke "emergency powers" (which, by any normal interpretation do not entitle them to act as they are proposing, but which will no doubt be interpreted as such by their puppet court, the ECJ).

[Bobbisox1]

Aren’t you just a tiny bit pleased you’re not under this woman’s rule Canary? I know I am

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen insisted over the weekend that the EU has the power to "forbid" exports of coronavirus doses, adding: "That is the message to AstraZeneca."

[fender62]

the woman and eu do not know how to run a company let alone countries, bullying tactics err we will just change the law to suit, emergency powers, mob rules aye but under the guise of we are the power do as we please, and you really like the eu...beggars belief.

[naomi24]

Canary is being Canary as usual. Almost five years down the line and he still doesn’t understand what was written on the bus.

[emmie]

perhaps the wheels go round and round, round and round with canary getting confused and dizzy.........

[Zacs-Master]

You know, fellow ABers, if you don't respond to crap like this the OP will generally get bored very quickly.

[emmie]

alls fair in love and war zacs, canary starts them but seems reluctant to continue