Yorkshire School Protest

[mushroom25]

oh dear.....
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/live-angry-parent-protest-batley-20250996

the teacher must have known the likely reaction, and that it was likely to be a career ending move. why on earth.......???

[Untitled]

We don’t get any sense from the report how the cartoons were actually being used other than that they were “in an RS lesson”... I appreciate lots of muslims find depictions offensive but that does not mean they do not exist or that they are an unworthy resource for education. Unless the teacher was instructing students to make caricatures or was using them to advance a hateful point of view (which I think very unlikely and we would have heard about it) then I do not think they should be sacked and I can’t say I have much sympathy for the protestors.

[Canary42]

The thing which always amuses me about these protests is how do the protesters know what the Prophet looks like since images are forbidden them - so how can they judge whether images about which they are protesting are of the Prophet, or just someone's grandfather perhaps.

[woofgang]

The nearest thing i can think of is that we know that hard porn exists but would parents think it appropriate for it to be used in eg a social studies lesson? But yes not enough detail really.

[woofgang]

context canary

[dannyk13]

Untitled, I think that this was the reason for the protest:-
a teacher allegedly showed derogatory caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.

[Paigntonian]

Surely the teacher must be mega thick not to know what could happen.

[Barsel]

Didn't this happen in Paris a while ago and someone got shot?

[Paigntonian]

Canary: Because they are presented as images of the prophet. Just as there are images of Christ, presented as such, when we don't know what he looked like.

[mushroom25]

// Didn't this happen in Paris a while ago and someone got shot? //

it did, and someone was indeed shot. but not before the local community justified decapitation of the teacher, whose head was duly removed.

It couldn't happen here? well it has. all that's needed is for some public spirited citizen to get worked up enough...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-37021385

[Untitled]

Yes danny I did actually read the link and my post still stands... we don't know what purpose this material was serving in the lesson... it does not strike me as impossible to justify in an RS class - e.g. for teaching about modern day iconoclasm - tho it would be unusual.

[andy-hughes]

I am no expert, but as I understand it, any image of the Prophet is deeply offensive in Islam - regardless of the intention behind it.

Any teacher in a school with Muslim pupils should be aware of any and all taboos concerning religion.

[Untitled]

The idea that you can draw a stick figure and its ok... but write "muhammad" above it and it is suddenly blasphemy is quite silly... and unrealistic!

[Untitled]

I am not sure it is a bad thing for students to be offended in school andy hughes... or indeed to experience many other negative emotions... provided of course it is for an educational purpose rather than just nastiness.

[Untitled]

To take an example off the top of my head I remember seeing many horrible and disturbing anti semitic posters in my history class at school... when we were studying German and Russian history (nazi era and civil war respectively). These were nasty and derogatory images that should never have been produced... I found some of them quite upsetting and still do. But I am glad they were used in our class.

[Theland]

There have been protests also against the ban on drawing Mohammed.

http://www.daysuntil.com/Everybody-Draw-Mohammed-Day/index.html

[zebo]

One publisher got into hot water because on the cover of one of their Maths books they used some beautiful Islamic art, one of our parents demanded that all the books should be backed because displaying Islamic art wasn't allowed. He didn't get away with his attempt to bully us though.

[Untitled]

How ridiculous zebo... and well done to those who stood up to him.

[Fatalbertfixer]

Makes one wonder if the prophet is so offensive to look at,why so many worship him,her,he,she,it,that or any other way way they identify.
(One cant asume its gender)

[Stickybottle]

Fatalbertfixer
Makes one wonder if the prophet is so offensive to look at,why so many worship him,her,he,she,it,that or any other way way they identify.
(One cant asume its gender

Yes, difficult to know what a paedophile looks like I guess
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Muhammad

[chelle7272]

//We don’t get any sense from the report how the cartoons were actually being used//

It says caricature, which by definition is not exactly respectful or educational in an RS class