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I’ve scanned most of this thread but one phrase saddened me . Sqad. ** many begging to be abused *
I'm still fighting to recover from my experience behind the bike shed at school in 1960. Is it to late to complain.
Anne, I think we've had this conversation with sqad before and he meant consensual, but forceful. Hopefully, we don't need to explain what consent means. But he seems to be thinking he was worse than he was.
Sorry pixie,* begging to be abused* is a loathsome description .
It depends on what is meant, I think, Anne. Each to their own... but as far as I have seen... it's agreed and consensual.
He can always get Alec Salmonds lawyer.Salmond had 14 accusers,this geezer only 7.Easy acquittal...
ynf, he had 20 accusers before and now 7 more have apparently come forward.
Easy-peasy,Emmie.If Salmonds lawyer can get Randy Sandy an acquittal,then his guy will be made a peer of the realm and then made chief and head-honcho of the @metoo movement...
sadly whatever the outcome, i think that his career is over, or at least curtailed for the forceeable.
//sadly whatever the outcome, i think that his career is over, or at least curtailed for the forceeable.//

And that is exactly my point.

Found guilty by the mob, justice in this country is now a joke.
why would various projects he was involved in be dropped like a hot potato, his last episode of Viewpoint was stopped, why?
and i haven't got an insight into his guilt or innocence,
i have merely added what i think might happen, not that it will.
why though apologise, if you have done nothing wrong, and
say quite clearly that he will seek help to get things right...
It's not "sadly" if he IS guilty. But nobody knows that yet.
My view is just that personal projects can be dropped, due to public perception. If an actor's popularity goes down, fairly or not- nobody wants to watch them. It's entertainment, which isn't necessarily fair. But maybe, allegations and accusations shouldn't be put in the media, until they are solved. People aren't rational.
i said it pixie and so did you i think, that mud sticks, whatever the outcome, and its going to take a long while, his career isn't going forward.
@15.11.Aye,Salmond was found guilty by the mob,but then he found a brilliant lawyer...and an easily swayed jury...
Alex Salmond for no reason i can explain, and its not because he is Scot, gives me the creeps.
Assuming its true, I found the "unsanctioned class on getting ready for bed" very telling and, as I said earlier, the "it was all voluntary" excuse a definite red flag.

I was a teenager in the 60's/70's and had my share of potentially risky moments, but I am sad to see the comment about "sadly women have lost their ability to deal with lecherous men" or words to that effect. We should never have needed it. No one should.
I can't imagine all 20 women stormed up to a police station to complain. There was possibly 1 woman who felt his actions were lewd and perhaps mentioned it to a friend who had experienced the same thing, word got round and then the complaints were made. Some of you are asking why did the complaints not start 20 yrs ago? You could say that about other predators like Jimmy Saville. Some women don't complain in case people think they are being over zealous or won't be believed. Once a few more people have complained, it would be easier for others to then come forward.
And maybe some did complain. Even on the off-chance of being believed, proof.... is a different matter.

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