Keir Starmer

[saintpeter48]

Just listened to him on the BBC, oh dear oh dear oh dear, the man lacks everything needed to be a leader, charisma being the main one!
He talks a lot without saying anything and his monotone voice just grates on me, and no doubt on others too!

[ToraToraTora]

stop it my sides are splitting!

[JimF]

It was a car crash, wasn't it! No clue what to do, couldn't even answer a simple question about a reshuffle of the shadow cabinet. Wouldn't surprise me if he's gone by Monday morning.

[Jackdaw33]

Be careful, TTT, too much Schadenfreude in one day can be bad for you.

[Apc2604]

Completely agree St P. He always had s startled look on face too and seems nervous. Strange for a Barrister!

[Jackdaw33]

Starmer simply isn't a politician by nature, let alone a party leader.

[AuntPollyGrey]

Starmer is the best thing that's happened to the Conservative Party in a long while lol!

[Jackdaw33]

It's almost comical. The Tories thought that their boat had come in with Corbyn; they never dreamt they'd be handed another gift.

[youngmafbog]

Not sure he was ever intended to be the long term leader, more the one that hacks the party about and then makes way for the real leader.

I used to do something similar where I would go into a company (self employed) straighten up the team often firing the useless and motivating the rest then leave to allow a full time manger to take over. That way the full time manager was not tainted with the sackings etc. I had gone on to do it elsewhere so not a problem to me either.

[Hopkirk]

Who else is there?

[JimF]

That's the problem! There's no-one. I wonder how many people had never even heard of him before he became party leader.

[emmie]

No one seemingly, as i said on the other thread, listening to SKS is like flogging an already dead horse. giddy up neddy.....

[ToraToraTora]

"Who else is there?" - dunno hoppy but it's fun trying to work it out. Who'd have thought Captain H would be such a gift for us tories? We rejoiced when they made agent Cob their leader, it just gets better and better, perhaps they'll make Diane Abacus their next leader next!

[naomi24]

I think Yvette Cooper has high hopes - dreadful woman.

[emmie]

Nope not Ed Ball's Mrs. that would be laughable

[JimF]

Starmer might do well to pick up the phone to Mark Drakeford! Welsh Labour seems to be doing OK so far...

[Hopkirk]

The trouble is for a healthy democracy, we need an effective opposition.

[andy-hughes]

As I have mentioned on another thread - Labour would not know an electable leader if one walked naked down Downing Street waving a red flag.

Look at their last fifty years - excepting Smith and Blair - and you have a list of men who would not look out of place in a pier-end Punch And Judy show.

And now, having jetisoned Corbyn, they have replaced him with someone else who couldn't win a charisma and popularity contest if he was the only entrant.

Add to the fact that he has no coherent policy and strategy to offer, and you get what you have - a fumbling bumbling idiot who is fo far out of his depth it would take him three hours to sink to the botton.

They need a new leader, and some ideas, and fast.

Yes it will look embarassing to jetison another idiot who got the job lord knows how - but the alternative is fifty years in opposition.

Come on Labour - the clock's ticking ....

[jourdain2]

Like Hopkirk - I can't think of anyone else. T.b.h. I don't dislike Starmer and I think he has seen through where Labour went wrong with Corbyn & co. and is genuinely trying to rectify the situation. Problem is - he doesn't have the right instincts to hand. I think they are there - just shuffling around the corner when he tries to lay a hand on them. I am by no means a Labour supporter - although in the past I have nearly voted for them - but the country needs a credible opposition because it works by checks and balances. If Starmer can hang on then I think he could maybe provide this, but it'll take a few years.

[bobbinwales]

Andy burnam

[jourdain2]

bobinwales - you may well be right. Don't think he wants the job though.