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Should The Legal Age Of Marriage Be Raised To 18?
Whilst it helps in bringing the issue of child marriage to the fore, it doesn’t address the reality that many of these marriages are conducted abroad, and others in religious ceremonies here which are unrecognised in British law. We can make efforts to prevent child abuse of this nature but I fear implementation of this proposed legislation will have very little effect.
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I am glad that this law has been brought in. There is a lot of confusion over childhood and adulthood and this clarifies it. Having said that, I am not over-
21:09 Mon 14th Jun 2021
The reason the Government is running scared of the Moslems was illustrated by the Rushdie affair.
The minority extremists raise a fatwah, and the moderates are (somewhat understandably) too frightened to rebel against their own religious leaders. Getting the moderates onside is a very difficult task - one made immeasurably more difficult by the widespread hostility against Islam as a whole by non-moslem communities. The vociferous rabble-rousers on both sides rule the roost.
But this sort of diversionary activity by the Government does nothing to improve the situation. And, as OP points out, much of the activity we disapprove of takes place outside our jurisdiction.
The minority extremists raise a fatwah, and the moderates are (somewhat understandably) too frightened to rebel against their own religious leaders. Getting the moderates onside is a very difficult task - one made immeasurably more difficult by the widespread hostility against Islam as a whole by non-moslem communities. The vociferous rabble-rousers on both sides rule the roost.
But this sort of diversionary activity by the Government does nothing to improve the situation. And, as OP points out, much of the activity we disapprove of takes place outside our jurisdiction.
// we have reached a situation where authority is clearly scared of addressing cultural differences that absolutely impact of the safety and well-being of innocent people,///
erm doesnt the legislation on FGM ( femaie mutilation) comprehensively and obviously refute this sentiment ?
I know this is AB but you know, can we write a bit of sense every now and then ?
and as for - - there is plenty of slavery abroad and none here so god knows why we need anti-slavery laws - - god knows where THAT came from!
[ god knows where that argument festered and gained weight before it burst onto the public stage on AB, masquerading as deep thought]
erm doesnt the legislation on FGM ( femaie mutilation) comprehensively and obviously refute this sentiment ?
I know this is AB but you know, can we write a bit of sense every now and then ?
and as for - - there is plenty of slavery abroad and none here so god knows why we need anti-slavery laws - - god knows where THAT came from!
[ god knows where that argument festered and gained weight before it burst onto the public stage on AB, masquerading as deep thought]
Thank you, bednobs x but no, I never have been or would get married. I'm not honestly sure why a "marriage" would be more special than a relationship anyway, unless you are particularly religious.
I could start a different thread, yes- but I actually believe the general society motivations for marriage- are extremely relevant here.
I could start a different thread, yes- but I actually believe the general society motivations for marriage- are extremely relevant here.
We should be protecting them from birth, attitudes are everything. And this, anyway, is not doing that- this is about consent, not age. Surely, a 17 year old getting married of her own volition, is not a concern like an 18 year old in an arranged marriage.
They are focusing on the wrong things here. And many of those reasons are "tradition". From wanting women to be paired off with "suitable" partners, to having children, to controlling wealth, to total ingrained "free choice". The only difference is the degree of control and who by. No need for any of it.
They are focusing on the wrong things here. And many of those reasons are "tradition". From wanting women to be paired off with "suitable" partners, to having children, to controlling wealth, to total ingrained "free choice". The only difference is the degree of control and who by. No need for any of it.
Naomi - // If you read the OP you'll see what this thread is about. //
No, what you will see is what the OP is.
The thread itself will take its own course, sometimes off the subject raised, as threads often do.
It is not, and never has been, the remit of the originator to dictate how close to the OP the discussion remains - or not.
No, what you will see is what the OP is.
The thread itself will take its own course, sometimes off the subject raised, as threads often do.
It is not, and never has been, the remit of the originator to dictate how close to the OP the discussion remains - or not.
Thanks Andy x although, I don't believe the reasons are "off the subject".
One minute we are teaching girls and boys, from birth... that they might get married and boys remain the same, while girls change and fit in.
The whole marriage ceremony is fairly misogynistic and controlling.
And this has gone on, been normalised, and accepted for centuries.
And now we are confused why females aren't being respected properly. Even though that has always been "our" aim.
Go for the cause, instead of a symptom, always more effective.
One minute we are teaching girls and boys, from birth... that they might get married and boys remain the same, while girls change and fit in.
The whole marriage ceremony is fairly misogynistic and controlling.
And this has gone on, been normalised, and accepted for centuries.
And now we are confused why females aren't being respected properly. Even though that has always been "our" aim.
Go for the cause, instead of a symptom, always more effective.
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