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Scotland Need Military Assistance For Ambulsnces
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Just wondering how this would work if they ever got independence ?
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The army has been helping the English NHS
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Surely your point is a moot one Sticky. They haven't left, they are part of the UK and therefore can make such a request of the military. As has been said elsewhere, if they were independent, they'd utilise their own forces
But I was led to believe that many join the forces for adventure and to see the world
Could independent Scotland recruit enough personnel who would almost never be deployed anywhere ?
The Scottish home guard does not sound very appealing !
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Surely your point is a moot one Sticky. They haven't left, they are part of the UK and therefore can make such a request of the military. As has been said elsewhere, if they were independent, they'd utilise their own forces
But I was led to believe that many join the forces for adventure and to see the world
Could independent Scotland recruit enough personnel who would almost never be deployed anywhere ?
The Scottish home guard does not sound very appealing !
This document was issued prior to the Independence Referendum but no doubt an updated document would be issued for a future vote.
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Some interesting musings here from 2017.
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//But I was led to believe that many join the forces for adventure and to see the world//
They may join for that, but once they've joined they soon learn that they will do whatever they're ordered. Most other countries have little problem with recruiting to their armies, why would Scotland be any different?
They may join for that, but once they've joined they soon learn that they will do whatever they're ordered. Most other countries have little problem with recruiting to their armies, why would Scotland be any different?
Mozz
Most other countries have little problem with recruiting to their armies, why would Scotland be any different?
Which countries ? Do you mean the ones in Europe where national service is still law ?
I still could not see many voluntarily joining an army or navy or air force that would in effect stay mostly at home
The link that Mamyalynne posted is very interesting
Most other countries have little problem with recruiting to their armies, why would Scotland be any different?
Which countries ? Do you mean the ones in Europe where national service is still law ?
I still could not see many voluntarily joining an army or navy or air force that would in effect stay mostly at home
The link that Mamyalynne posted is very interesting
I imagine the remainder of the UK (i.e. principally England) will lend a hand to our "friends North of the Border."
Actually I'm not so sure Ms Sturgeon is being entirely wholesome with the truth when she says "...health services were dealing with the most challenging combination of circumstances in their history due to the Covid-19 pandemic." In the winter of 1999-2000, there was a major outbreak of a particularly virulent variant of 'flu. Just after Christmas, across the UK there were some 200,000 emergency admissions to hospitals in just three weeks - around 10,000 a day.
By comparison, at its very worst in the first three weeks of January this year, daily Covid admissions across the UK averaged just under 4,000, with Scotland's total being around 160 a day. The average daily admissions for the three weeks up to 15th September (the latest available for Scotland) is 115 (with the UK's total for the same period standing at 962).
So whilst it's true that Scotland's daily total is a greater proportion of the UK's total than last January, in absolute terms it is still way below the average for that period (115 as against 160). More than that, although I don't have the figures, it's probably fairly certain that Scotland had to deal with far more emergency admissions in 2000, when the UK's total was almost 10,000 a day. Incidentally, at that time, although the NHS was busy and it cancelled many routine operations, at no time was it suggested it would be "overwhelmed" and life went on as normal. In fact I was particularly busy at that time with a personal matter but one thing's for sure - nobody walked around masked up; nothing closed; it wasn't on the news every half hour and "SAGE" hadn't been invented. But life went on. The then Health Secretary, Alan Milburn, made a statement in the HoC at the time but that was about it. It wasn't on the news every night; :
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People need to sit down and have a look at some numbers before blindly accepting what Ministers say. Ms Sturgeon's statement that Scottish Health Services face "...the most challenging combination of circumstances in their history" is not even true of the recent past, let alone in history.
The country has now reached the stage where the NHS is running the show. Effectively we are a health service with a country attached. It has now become clear that all health chiefs have to do is to say they are being "overwhelmed" and the shutters will come down.
Scotland should not be on the verge of needing military assistance. They didn't need it last January and they didn't need it in 2000. None of the UK's health services have made any progress in preparing for a pandemic since that year. And it's nothing to do with funding.
Actually I'm not so sure Ms Sturgeon is being entirely wholesome with the truth when she says "...health services were dealing with the most challenging combination of circumstances in their history due to the Covid-19 pandemic." In the winter of 1999-2000, there was a major outbreak of a particularly virulent variant of 'flu. Just after Christmas, across the UK there were some 200,000 emergency admissions to hospitals in just three weeks - around 10,000 a day.
By comparison, at its very worst in the first three weeks of January this year, daily Covid admissions across the UK averaged just under 4,000, with Scotland's total being around 160 a day. The average daily admissions for the three weeks up to 15th September (the latest available for Scotland) is 115 (with the UK's total for the same period standing at 962).
So whilst it's true that Scotland's daily total is a greater proportion of the UK's total than last January, in absolute terms it is still way below the average for that period (115 as against 160). More than that, although I don't have the figures, it's probably fairly certain that Scotland had to deal with far more emergency admissions in 2000, when the UK's total was almost 10,000 a day. Incidentally, at that time, although the NHS was busy and it cancelled many routine operations, at no time was it suggested it would be "overwhelmed" and life went on as normal. In fact I was particularly busy at that time with a personal matter but one thing's for sure - nobody walked around masked up; nothing closed; it wasn't on the news every half hour and "SAGE" hadn't been invented. But life went on. The then Health Secretary, Alan Milburn, made a statement in the HoC at the time but that was about it. It wasn't on the news every night; :
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People need to sit down and have a look at some numbers before blindly accepting what Ministers say. Ms Sturgeon's statement that Scottish Health Services face "...the most challenging combination of circumstances in their history" is not even true of the recent past, let alone in history.
The country has now reached the stage where the NHS is running the show. Effectively we are a health service with a country attached. It has now become clear that all health chiefs have to do is to say they are being "overwhelmed" and the shutters will come down.
Scotland should not be on the verge of needing military assistance. They didn't need it last January and they didn't need it in 2000. None of the UK's health services have made any progress in preparing for a pandemic since that year. And it's nothing to do with funding.
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In the winter of 1999-2000, there was a major outbreak of a particularly virulent variant of 'flu. Just after Christmas, across the UK there were some 200,000 emergency admissions to hospitals in just three weeks
But that was 20 years ago
Probably before they became statistically the unhealthiest country of the uk and all the pressures that brings to their nhs
In the winter of 1999-2000, there was a major outbreak of a particularly virulent variant of 'flu. Just after Christmas, across the UK there were some 200,000 emergency admissions to hospitals in just three weeks
But that was 20 years ago
Probably before they became statistically the unhealthiest country of the uk and all the pressures that brings to their nhs
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