France Suspends 3,000 Healthcare Workers For Not Being Vaccinated

[Stickybottle]

Seems fair enough to me

Will our government do the same ?

[Stickybottle]

Sorry forgot my link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58581682

[DTCwordfan]

they ought to.

[Spungle]

Yes, no jab, no job.

[237SJ]

I know someone who had the AZ jab back in April, got blood clots on his lungs and still can't walk more than 40 metres. Worth it to keep his job?

[Spicerack]

You oughtn't go against the AB Covid experts, 237.
They're experts and know everything about it. ;-)

[bobbinwales]

In that case assuming the clots were definately caused by the vaccinnes there one of the very few whod probly have been better off not having the jab. But thats just bad luck, the vaccinne benefits far far outweigh the risk's.
But whats that got to do with needing it for a job 237SJ?? Did the person you know have it forced on them for work and would they of refused it if there job didnt depend on it

[237SJ]

Don't get me wrong - I`ve been vaccinated for just about everything (bar Diptheria - never had that one) but they were tried and tested vaccines so I trusted them. It doesn't matter what anyone says, this vaccine has been rushed through and it is understandable that some people might be sceptical and want to wait a while until more info is more forthcoming.

[douglas9401]

The vaccine benefits far outweigh the risk, now that the disease drawbacks and overreaction to the same has trashed the planet.

We've got ourselves to a place where the game is very nearly not worth the candle, steely-eyed health workers dare us to challenge them and their surly ways now that they've been elevated to sainthood and politicians from council to Westminster revel in the fleeting moments of rule by decree safe in the knowledge that they'll never have to pay for their many follies.

IMHO

[pixie374]

237, we have a 94 year old gent, that had angina attacks about 3 times a year- he had the first covid jab, and had 4 severe attacks that week. He didn't have the second... but the attacks have been worse ever since, and it hasn't been recorded.

[Stickybottle]

But he is 94 so is hardly getting ready to be part of the space programme !
Amazing too that so many people know someone who knows someone who has blah blah blah blah
Sounds like Nikki Minaj lol

[Stickybottle]

237SJ
It doesn't matter what anyone says, this vaccine has been rushed through and it is understandable that some people might be sceptical and want to wait a while until more info is more forthcoming.

Either that or wait for a life threatening virus to strike I suppose ! Smh

[rowanwitch]

When I was a nurse we had to be immunized against hep B, and have proven immunity against TB, Rubella and Chicken pox, either from previous infection exposure o r immunisation or you couldn't work with patients, don't really see any difference. You do the job knowing you have a responsibility to do everything you can to ensure patient safety.

[237SJ]

When I started work I was immunised against hepatitis, meningitis, thypoid, cholera, yellow fever and then had other optional jabs such as rabies. I was never vaccinated against TB but had my own immunity to that. The only jab that was semi-compulsory was the yellow fever and my job wasn't dependant on having that (there were other options as to where to work)

[Deskdiary]

The argument from 237 is weak.

237 knows one person who had a reaction - compared against the millions who have not.

[Peter Pedant]

It doesn't matter what anyone says, this vaccine has been rushed through

a billion doses given ( world wide ) - and 23 clots
you are looking at one in million to half a million jabs

this is rated as safe.

by comparison: While the risk of dying in a road accident in any year in the UK approaches 1 in 20,000, the lifetime risk is 1 in 240. In the Ukraine it is 1 in 80.

Covid current death rate is around 1 in 200 - much higher in over seventies

[237SJ]

Deskdiary - my point is that when I had my numerous vaccinations, they were tried and tested and the side effects and complications were known because the vaccinations had been through many trials. If I had been told "No jab, no job" I would have been quite happy with that.

[Peter Pedant]

// 237 knows one person who had a reaction //
it is called recall bias

[AuntPG]

Rowanwitch -spot on. Anyone who thinks otherwise should not be in healthcare.

[Peter Pedant]

Hep B - no jab no job - no big deal ( NHS) - at least 20y

[Deskdiary]

I went to school with somebody who had a very serious reaction to the BCG.

We all still had the injection. As have 10s and 10s of millions in the UK alone.

One anecdotal story of a reaction does not mean the vaccine is unsafe, and it’s stories like yours, some of which are posted on social media, that persuades the weak of mind that randoms on the interweb are correct and the experts are not.

It’s not helpful.