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"On Thursday Poland's top court ruled that key articles of EU law were "incompatible" with the constitution." - looks like Poland also have their share of remoaners.
"On Thursday Poland's top court ruled that key articles of EU law were "incompatible" with the constitution." - looks like Poland also have their share of remoaners.
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Spending an extra £350m per week on the NHS would be a waste - probably go in inflated admin salaries.
18:37 Mon 11th Oct 2021
//If they live in the UK, I would think it fair that the benefits we are all entitled to and take for granted should be theirs equally.//
Depends really. Do you think it is fair, for example, that those who have been arriving in their hundreds – in fact thousands – in rubber boats over the past few months, should share equally in “the benefits we are all entitled to and take for granted”? My view is that no, they don’t.
This, of course, may simply be me demonstrating the “cultural inculcation” (thanks for explaining it to us – I’m sure none of us knew what it was) which you believe is excessive on this site. It could equally be a very valid question about your belief that anybody who lives here is entitled to share in the country’s ample benefits. Now I’m not saying the Poles, who arrived here in good faith by legitimate channels are not entitled to share in the country’s undoubted advantages. But it is surely too simplistic to automatically bestow those benefits which others have paid for on those who simply pitch up on these shores in a dinghy just because “they live here.”
I’d be interested in your views on this point but if you feel your skills and abilities would be wasted on such a topic, I’ll quite understand. It’s a shame that AB will have to do without your two and a bit contributions each week, especially in view of the skills and abilities you bring to us all. Still, I’m sure you’ll provide us with details of where we can find your podcast before you go. You can then speak whilst we all listen intently. Far more satisfying than the tiresome business of engaging with people who might perhaps not agree with you.
Depends really. Do you think it is fair, for example, that those who have been arriving in their hundreds – in fact thousands – in rubber boats over the past few months, should share equally in “the benefits we are all entitled to and take for granted”? My view is that no, they don’t.
This, of course, may simply be me demonstrating the “cultural inculcation” (thanks for explaining it to us – I’m sure none of us knew what it was) which you believe is excessive on this site. It could equally be a very valid question about your belief that anybody who lives here is entitled to share in the country’s ample benefits. Now I’m not saying the Poles, who arrived here in good faith by legitimate channels are not entitled to share in the country’s undoubted advantages. But it is surely too simplistic to automatically bestow those benefits which others have paid for on those who simply pitch up on these shores in a dinghy just because “they live here.”
I’d be interested in your views on this point but if you feel your skills and abilities would be wasted on such a topic, I’ll quite understand. It’s a shame that AB will have to do without your two and a bit contributions each week, especially in view of the skills and abilities you bring to us all. Still, I’m sure you’ll provide us with details of where we can find your podcast before you go. You can then speak whilst we all listen intently. Far more satisfying than the tiresome business of engaging with people who might perhaps not agree with you.
Roobaba: //do you know any [Polish people] Khandro?//
Yes and one, a Polish, Jewish woman who luckily escaped from the Warsaw ghetto to London WWII changed the course of my early professional life. I have exhibited in Warsaw prior to the collapse of the communist regime and I also visited Gdansk just prior to the covid outbreak a couple of years ago & loved it & everyone I met there - I have an abiding memory of a teenage couple entering church hand in hand & then kneeling to pray together.
My dad, - R.A.F. in WWII - said the Polish pilots were the bravest men among the brave.
Yes and one, a Polish, Jewish woman who luckily escaped from the Warsaw ghetto to London WWII changed the course of my early professional life. I have exhibited in Warsaw prior to the collapse of the communist regime and I also visited Gdansk just prior to the covid outbreak a couple of years ago & loved it & everyone I met there - I have an abiding memory of a teenage couple entering church hand in hand & then kneeling to pray together.
My dad, - R.A.F. in WWII - said the Polish pilots were the bravest men among the brave.
We send the EU £350m a week
Let’s fund the NHS instead
> err no it's the suggestion, "lets fund" - what comes after that is just ideas about what to fund "instead".
Oh really? Is that how you see it? Ideas, plural? I don't recall a big list of ideas, a fleet of buses with a different idea on each one. Just that one bus, with that one statement: "Let's fund the NHS instead"
Let’s fund the NHS instead
> err no it's the suggestion, "lets fund" - what comes after that is just ideas about what to fund "instead".
Oh really? Is that how you see it? Ideas, plural? I don't recall a big list of ideas, a fleet of buses with a different idea on each one. Just that one bus, with that one statement: "Let's fund the NHS instead"
elipsis: "We send the EU £350m a week
Let’s fund the NHS instead
> err no it's the suggestion, "lets fund" - what comes after that is just ideas about what to fund "instead".
Oh really? Is that how you see it? Ideas, plural? " -
indeed it could be a list, eg:
We send the EU £350m a week
Let’s fund, literacy classes for remoaners or the NHS instead.
geddit?
Let’s fund the NHS instead
> err no it's the suggestion, "lets fund" - what comes after that is just ideas about what to fund "instead".
Oh really? Is that how you see it? Ideas, plural? " -
indeed it could be a list, eg:
We send the EU £350m a week
Let’s fund, literacy classes for remoaners or the NHS instead.
geddit?
> Let’s fund, literacy classes for remoaners or the NHS instead.
geddit?
Yep, I geddit. You are suggesting that I need literacy classes. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll chew it over.
In the meantime, let's try repeating TCL's unanswered question: Were there any posters or adverts suggesting the £350 million each week be spent other than on the NHS?
geddit?
Yep, I geddit. You are suggesting that I need literacy classes. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll chew it over.
In the meantime, let's try repeating TCL's unanswered question: Were there any posters or adverts suggesting the £350 million each week be spent other than on the NHS?
Naomi, "they" made the promise, "they" won the vote, "they" now have to deal with the fact that "they" made the promise, whether or not "they" were in a position to make such a promise.
If you want "my" opinion, the £350M was wrong - the net contribution to the EU was much lower, and we'll possibly even be the poorer for not being members, which "their" opponents were pointing out at the time. But assuming we are financially richer, then certainly "they" are in a position to spend 100% of those extra riches on the NHS if "they" choose to do so, as "they" promised.
If you want "my" opinion, the £350M was wrong - the net contribution to the EU was much lower, and we'll possibly even be the poorer for not being members, which "their" opponents were pointing out at the time. But assuming we are financially richer, then certainly "they" are in a position to spend 100% of those extra riches on the NHS if "they" choose to do so, as "they" promised.
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