Doom And Gloom.

[Khandro]

Here is a letter in last week's Spectator;

Sir: The depressing article by Tom Woodman (‘You must be kidding’, 16 October) confirms my growing fears about the damage being wrought by the promoters of apocalyptic climate change, which has become a dangerous cult with alarming echoes of millenarian doom which has stretched through many previous centuries. While sensible care for the environment is a good thing, the descriptions of a frightening future of the imminent end of the world through drought, flood and fire now imbues every aspect of education and politics. Constantly bombarding young people with the news that the end of the world is nigh has led many of them into completely unnecessary visions of death and disaster.

Those convinced by the relentlessly gloomy outlook should try reading some of the opposite viewpoints instead, of which there are many. Those responsible for the propaganda should hang their heads in shame at what they have done and are doing to the mental welfare of younger generations.

Dr Angela Montford
St Andrews, Fife

Does the Doctor not make a good point?

[Gromit]

// So if we get our carbon emissions down to zero we will not ever have extreme weather conditions again //

Carbon emissions are natural. From volcanoes to forest fires. There will never be zero emissions.
But what we can slow down and reduce are ‘man made’ carbon emissions.

[Khandro]

//But what we can slow down and reduce are ‘man made’ carbon emissions.//

So what are you doing to help Gromit ? give us a lead

[Gromit]

Deskdiary
I am not an expert. Far from it.
But there is a lot to read out there.
You can either accept the scientific consensus or ignore it.
If you choose to ignore it, you must have good reason.

[tomus42]

Individuals can't do anything khandro. It doesn't matter how much gromit rides his bike to work. There'll always be more people that don't give a *** - like yourself perhaps. Governments must take the lead by changing laws.

[Gromit]

Last year, UK wide carbon emissions fell by 10%.
That was because we changed our behaviour. So it can be done.

[New Judge]

//Last year, UK wide carbon emissions fell by 10%.
That was because we changed our behaviour. So it can be done.//

And the result of that reduction was what, exactly?

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

I'm looking forward to some nice warm summers; the French have had it too good for too long...!

[Spicerack]

If only we had permanent lockdown, gromit, we could maintain your 10% Carbon reduction.
Can anyone explain when/why Co2 came to be regarded as deadly or how Al Gore made a billion dollars out of 'trading' the stuff?
Despite the latest revisionism, everyone agreed* the Earth had 12x the current atmospheric Co2 levels millions of years ago. What calamity followed....plant life flourished and grew to large dimensions.
*Which reminds me. Science doesn't work by consensus. If it did, you'd still believe the Sun went around the Earth. Even the GW fanatics aren't that gullible. ;-)

[Spicerack]

17 out of 18 of the warmest years on record have occurred since 2001.
Lol.
Despite using those 'tricks' they discussed during Climategate.
Despite moving recording stations from shade halfway up a mountain to the apron of Runway3.
Despite 'weighting' all the data coming in.
Anyone who believes that is a *** weapons grade ̶i̶d̶i̶ nice person who is rather too trusting.

[Khandro]

tomus ; //There'll always be more people that don't give a *** - like yourself perhaps.//

Simply question the stats & claims being made that are directly contradicted by empirical evidence & as sure as night follows day, some clown will come along & call you a climate-change denier.

Listen here to a few facts, if you have evidence that they are wrong, please give us some alternatives from credible sources:

[Zacs-Master]

Interesting, Khandro. I’d like to see Miss Thunberg’s reaction to that.

[dave50]

I am personally now sick a tired of the incessant daily bombardment about climate change. It's moved past a useful message and is now just a tiresome tirade. The constant parade of droning wannabe celebrities and the obscene rich jumping on the bandwagon, blatantly furthering their own profile and bank balance, continually telling me, its all my fault and I should be ashamed to live my life, is frankly turning me away from the whole subject.

[Peter Pedant]

well write and tell her
22 The Scores, St. Andrews, Fife, KY16 9AS
( companies house) - she is an authoress by the way

[bednobs]

he makes a point. whether its a good point depends on which side of thinking you fall on

[bednobs]

sorry left off the s.

[naomi24]

Yes, the doctor does make a good point. I think this constant bombardment is damaging to young people.

[davebro]

08.58 spot on Dave

[Untitled]

I do not care about what is "damaging" to young people... I care about what is true... the worries about climate change are very well supported and I really cannot say I am interested in what conspiracy theorists and lobbyists (like Moore) have to say on the matter... we either act to limit the damage or we suffer the damage. There really aren't any other options.

[Khandro]

untitled; //I really cannot say I am interested in what conspiracy theorists and lobbyists (like Moore) have to say on the matter...//

Well it's your choice; you can either listen to what "Moore" (Dr!) says, a man who cares so much & is knowledgeable enough about the planet to not just talk, but to found Greenpeace.

Or you can listen to the rantings of a teenage, hysterical and uneducated, Swedish girl.

[Untitled]

Have you seen Dr. Moore's pesticide interview khandro? Rather shows him up for what he is imo... he takes money from lobbies that don't want anything done about climate change and acts as a mouthpiece for them. Whatever his convictions were when he was in his 20s they have obviously changed a great deal!!!