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The Uk Migrant Dilemma - It's All About Brexit
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This is exactly what I said on the other thread.
Brexit is not the cause of the migrant crisis which in any case is an international issue. But voters hear “Take back control of our borders” - a Brexit slogan - and they see what’s happening in the Channel and they think the government is failing to honour a pledge made in another context.
Which is bad news all round because it leads to hasty and impractical solutions when there isn’t a quick or even a moderately quick fix
Brexit is not the cause of the migrant crisis which in any case is an international issue. But voters hear “Take back control of our borders” - a Brexit slogan - and they see what’s happening in the Channel and they think the government is failing to honour a pledge made in another context.
Which is bad news all round because it leads to hasty and impractical solutions when there isn’t a quick or even a moderately quick fix
It is true that now the “Dublin agreement” no longer applies since Brexit: the UK has no arrangement any longer to return migrants to the EU country whence they may have come.
This is as previously stated a different type of (im)migration which actually requires international cooperation so divorcing ourselves from the treaties and agreements we once had is a step back.
This would have slightly eased one of the twin issues here, namely how to cope with the arrivals but done nothing to address the issue of stopping the flow.
It’s also true, tho no one likes yo Kenton it much, that the UK receives less migrants than many other European countries.
This is as previously stated a different type of (im)migration which actually requires international cooperation so divorcing ourselves from the treaties and agreements we once had is a step back.
This would have slightly eased one of the twin issues here, namely how to cope with the arrivals but done nothing to address the issue of stopping the flow.
It’s also true, tho no one likes yo Kenton it much, that the UK receives less migrants than many other European countries.
//And given that the latest official figures suggest the UK currently has negative net migration - more people leaving than arriving - it is unlikely to be about numbers,...//
If it was true that more people are leaving than arriving (and I'm not entirely sure that it is but don't have the figures to hand) it may not be about numbers, but there is another consideration. That is "population exchange". What has been happening in the UK for a coupe of decades or so is that people who are leaving are predominantly either members of the professions or skilled workers with a lot to offer their new home nation or they are retired and self-supporting (because many nations will not allow you to settle if you are not). In exchange we see the arrival of largely unskilled or unemployable people who, even if they do work, are unlikely to make a huge contribution to the UK's coffers. The notion that those arriving in rubber boats are architects, lawyers and surgeons is fanciful. If they were, they would apply to settle in the UK via the proper channels and arrive by conventional means.
So, if you're happy to see the UK's population of skilled construction workers, doctors and nurses, together with wealthy pensioners exchanged for fruit pickers, car washers and McDonalds moped delivery drivers, then the arrival of tens of thousand on the beaches in Kent is a welcome sight.
If it was true that more people are leaving than arriving (and I'm not entirely sure that it is but don't have the figures to hand) it may not be about numbers, but there is another consideration. That is "population exchange". What has been happening in the UK for a coupe of decades or so is that people who are leaving are predominantly either members of the professions or skilled workers with a lot to offer their new home nation or they are retired and self-supporting (because many nations will not allow you to settle if you are not). In exchange we see the arrival of largely unskilled or unemployable people who, even if they do work, are unlikely to make a huge contribution to the UK's coffers. The notion that those arriving in rubber boats are architects, lawyers and surgeons is fanciful. If they were, they would apply to settle in the UK via the proper channels and arrive by conventional means.
So, if you're happy to see the UK's population of skilled construction workers, doctors and nurses, together with wealthy pensioners exchanged for fruit pickers, car washers and McDonalds moped delivery drivers, then the arrival of tens of thousand on the beaches in Kent is a welcome sight.
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