The Next Tory Prime Minister ?

[Stickybottle]

Poll from Sky News app so no link :

Poll indicates which Tory MPs have most support among public
Also featured in the Opinium polling for Sky News were figures on the popularity of the various leadership contenders if Boris Johnson were to be forced out.
Chancellor Rishi Sunak, by far the most well known of the options presented to respondents, had the most support by some distance.
Rishi Sunak-
good leader: 46% bad leader: 33% (net +13%)
Sajid Javid-
35% 42% (-7%)
Jeremy Hunt-
28% 43% (-16%)
Liz Truss-
22% 40% (-18%)
Michael Gove-
24% 51% (-27%)
Priti Patel-
19% 62% (-42%)
The polling also found that 64% believe Tory MPs should remove PM through no-confidence vote, while 24% think they should not.
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Time for the backbenchers to do the decent thing before his antics get many of them removed at the next GE anyway

[Stickybottle]

naomi24
Careful Sticky, your supercilious halo is in danger of strangling you. As Prime Minister, Theresa May held the electorate in far greater disdain than Boris ever has but the holier than thou intent on destruction regardless of cost have short memories when it suits them.
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What utter tripe
When May parties to oblivion in the midst of a pandemic as the nation suffers then it is possible she could be compared to the biggest liar ever seen in parliament
Even Blackford compared her tenure to one of respect and decorum in her time in office
To accuse any living person of lower standards than Boris is utterly laughable but your blind and delusional hero worship of the worst PM in living memory is frightening

[ichkeria]

“May parties”

I think that’s Johnson’s problem ;-)

[naomi24]

//your blind and delusional hero worship of the worst PM in living memory is frightening //

You can probably get something for that. Have a word with your GP.

[Stickybottle]

If you deem May in such contempt could you give us your personal appraisal of Boris ?

I shall get popcorn because this will be unmissable ! Lol
It will sound something akin to a female JRM no doubt

Pray continue….

[ToraToraTora]

jim: "There are many things Theresa May can be charged with, but holding the Electorate in disdain isn't one of them. " - gawd elp us, she wanted to ignore the democratic will of the people and sell us down the river in some sort of BRINO deal with her Brussels buddies!

[jim360]

Johnson's deal was in every meaningful respect the same as May's, and the bits that were different he has since tried to change.

Suggesting that May "wanted" the deal to be BRINO is revisionist nonsense. It was a bad deal, certainly. But it was bad because it satisfied nobody, not because it was part of some secret Remainer plot. Remainers in Parliament were, besides, not even remotely competent to try and pull that off; most of them were too busy deluding themselves into thinking that they could stop Brexit altogether to recognise that they should be more focused on shaping the deal.

[rowanwitch]

I was disappointed when Ruth Davidson left the frontline, she was one Conservative I felt had the makings a decent leader. She came across as calm, intelligent but human.

[naomi24]

//most of them were too busy deluding themselves into thinking that they could stop Brexit //

What a wag. :o)

[ichkeria]

“ she was one Conservative I felt had the makings a decent leader. She came across as calm, intelligent but human”

If I was Johnson I’d be hoping not many were watching her interview on the teatime news yesterday where she ended up close to tears

[jim360]

I was careful to refer to "Remainers in Parliament", but, yes, it's fair that a certain subset of Remainers as a whole deluded themselves for a time that Brexit could be stopped, and I was foolish enough to be part of it at the time.

Still, that's not really the charge being laid here, which is that Theresa May through her malice tried to stop Brexit from the very start. Such a charge is utter nonsense. Incompetent she may have been, but malicious she was not.

[anneasquith]

Best BA for hopkirk, well deserved. Boris's fan club do remind one of trump

[dannyk13]

Jim// Incompetent she may have been, but malicious she was not.//
She was a remainer charged with getting Brexit done and she had little enthusiasm for it preferring and ready to settle for a bad deal.

[johnny.5]

David Icke

[naomi24]

Jim, you're the only one who's mentioned maliciousness.

[jim360]

Even if that were the case, it still doesn't amount to malice; and, besides, she was elected leader of the Tories ahead of multiple more Brexit-leaning candidates. Johnson didn't even stand.

[jim360]

I'm using "malice" as opposed to "incompetence" due to a famous maxim. But it's clear that calling May a "rat", or saying that she "wanted... to sell us down the river", and the general charge that she was deliberately trying to undermine Brexit from within, pretty clearly amount to a charge of malice.

[naomi24]

//she was elected leader of the Tories ahead of multiple more Brexit-leaning candidates. //

Oh do give over, Jim! Your spinning is all old hat now. She was the only candidate left! The rest baled out.

[naomi24]

Jim, stop putting words in my mouth. You mentioned 'malice' not me. She did her utmost to keep us tied to the EU - and that wasn't out of malice - it was because she valued her own political leanings over the will of the people. In short she thought she knew better. A rat, yes, and an arrogant rat at that!

[jim360]

"Your spinning is all old hat now. She was the only candidate left!"

I don't spin. I can see that I should have been clearer that the "election" I was referring to was among the Tory MPs only, rather than the Party membership, but this isn't spin.

[jim360]

"[May] did her utmost to keep us tied to the EU - and that wasn't out of malice - it was because she valued her own political leanings over the will of the people. In short she thought she knew better."

This description of history seems to ignore multiple parts of the story. For example, consider the political context following the 2017 Election, when May was left without a majority and reliant on the DUP for support, and was in charge of a party that was itself divided, never mind Parliament itself. What could she possibly have brought to the table that would have commanded any majority, when on one side the hard Remainers were convinced that they could force a second referendum, and on the other the Hard Brexiters seemed unaware that they had no majority either?