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Johnson Brings Peashooter To Gunfight
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That is the analogy from Sky News :
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I indicated as much yesterday on the Well Done Boris thread
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So is the the strong and forthright leadership we have been waiting for from Bozo since the Partygate furore ? Is this ‘getting on with the job’ by his standards ?
Found wanting and woefully inadequate again it would appear
Or is he doing the marvellous job that some of the deluded on here believe he is ?
Dropping Covid restrictions early against the medical advice and handling this crisis poorly will not save him from Gray 2.0 and the Met inquiry will it ?
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I indicated as much yesterday on the Well Done Boris thread
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So is the the strong and forthright leadership we have been waiting for from Bozo since the Partygate furore ? Is this ‘getting on with the job’ by his standards ?
Found wanting and woefully inadequate again it would appear
Or is he doing the marvellous job that some of the deluded on here believe he is ?
Dropping Covid restrictions early against the medical advice and handling this crisis poorly will not save him from Gray 2.0 and the Met inquiry will it ?
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davebro
The days are gone when Britain (UK) could be expected to go around righting all the wrongs in this world. We do what we can and hope others take notice.
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So we do the bare minimum in spite of all the rhetoric about being strong and united and resolute ?
johnk is probably right
It is times like this that exposes politicians who have fingers in many pies when it comes to dirty Russian money being laundered through the legitimate stock markets in Europe
It would certainly explain the barely registering ‘tough sanctions’ promised so far
The days are gone when Britain (UK) could be expected to go around righting all the wrongs in this world. We do what we can and hope others take notice.
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So we do the bare minimum in spite of all the rhetoric about being strong and united and resolute ?
johnk is probably right
It is times like this that exposes politicians who have fingers in many pies when it comes to dirty Russian money being laundered through the legitimate stock markets in Europe
It would certainly explain the barely registering ‘tough sanctions’ promised so far
My opinion, sorry sticky, is that the Gray enquiry and Met inquiries need to be put on the backburner indefinitely.
I'm Johnson's biggest critic there, but this is an international emergency that dwarfs all else. And although we are talking about serious issues of dishonesty to parliament and double standards, these are matters which pale into insignificance, especially if the price of seeing them through for now would be to leave us in the grip of our own power struggle for no 10.
I'm Johnson's biggest critic there, but this is an international emergency that dwarfs all else. And although we are talking about serious issues of dishonesty to parliament and double standards, these are matters which pale into insignificance, especially if the price of seeing them through for now would be to leave us in the grip of our own power struggle for no 10.
ichkeria
My opinion, sorry sticky, is that the Gray enquiry and Met inquiries need to be put on the backburner indefinitely.
I'm Johnson's biggest critic there, but this is an international emergency that dwarfs all else.
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I disagree
We need someone who can do the job and the sooner Bozo is removed the better
As I have said previously he will not be a hard act to follow as pretty much every one of the prospective candidates has more integrity and wherewithal about them
Remember
Even Thatcher was removed in a time of major crisis and she had gravitas in buckets
My opinion, sorry sticky, is that the Gray enquiry and Met inquiries need to be put on the backburner indefinitely.
I'm Johnson's biggest critic there, but this is an international emergency that dwarfs all else.
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I disagree
We need someone who can do the job and the sooner Bozo is removed the better
As I have said previously he will not be a hard act to follow as pretty much every one of the prospective candidates has more integrity and wherewithal about them
Remember
Even Thatcher was removed in a time of major crisis and she had gravitas in buckets
dannyk13
Sticky//the sooner Bozo is removed the better//
I think the members of the cabinet are in a better position than you to know if and when Boris should be replaced.
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Lol !
They already know he is not fit for the job
That is why Sunak especially and Javid distanced themselves from his Starmer remarks
Have you been paying attention at all over the last 2 months as to the depth of feeling against him from even his own party ?
Sticky//the sooner Bozo is removed the better//
I think the members of the cabinet are in a better position than you to know if and when Boris should be replaced.
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Lol !
They already know he is not fit for the job
That is why Sunak especially and Javid distanced themselves from his Starmer remarks
Have you been paying attention at all over the last 2 months as to the depth of feeling against him from even his own party ?
ichkeria
I can't recall a crisis of these proportions at the time Thatcher departed in 1990.
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Were you not born when Gulf War 1 was in the offing after Saddam invaded Kuwait ?
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I can't recall a crisis of these proportions at the time Thatcher departed in 1990.
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Were you not born when Gulf War 1 was in the offing after Saddam invaded Kuwait ?
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// ... this is an international emergency that dwarfs all else. //
Maybe so, but that's no reason not to change leader if the leader isn't up to the task. In this particular instance it would also be highly relevant who was lined up to replace him, but there have certainly been worse crises the UK has faced, that didn't stop a leadership change. In particular, you could point to the Norway debacle in 1940, with worse to come around the corner; or, to a lesser extent, to the Suez Crisis. In that case, Eden resigned a month or so after the height of the crisis, and at least primarily due to ill health, but as his successor Macmillan wrote, "nature had provided a real health reason [when a] diplomatic illness [might otherwise have had to be invented]", and in any case, the fallout to the UK's prestige was still significant, and it would be odd to point to that as an excuse for his continuing.
The obvious difference between the two cases mentioned above, as opposed to Johnson, is that those resignations were directly connected to the foreign crises in which they occurred. Still, a leader representing the UK's interests abroad ought to have the trust and support of the country, rather than be kept on for appearances' sake.
Maybe so, but that's no reason not to change leader if the leader isn't up to the task. In this particular instance it would also be highly relevant who was lined up to replace him, but there have certainly been worse crises the UK has faced, that didn't stop a leadership change. In particular, you could point to the Norway debacle in 1940, with worse to come around the corner; or, to a lesser extent, to the Suez Crisis. In that case, Eden resigned a month or so after the height of the crisis, and at least primarily due to ill health, but as his successor Macmillan wrote, "nature had provided a real health reason [when a] diplomatic illness [might otherwise have had to be invented]", and in any case, the fallout to the UK's prestige was still significant, and it would be odd to point to that as an excuse for his continuing.
The obvious difference between the two cases mentioned above, as opposed to Johnson, is that those resignations were directly connected to the foreign crises in which they occurred. Still, a leader representing the UK's interests abroad ought to have the trust and support of the country, rather than be kept on for appearances' sake.
johnk
It would cost him far too much money.
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johnk
It is certainly food for thought
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It would cost him far too much money.
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johnk
It is certainly food for thought
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“Were you not born when Gulf War 1 was in the offing after Saddam invaded Kuwait ?
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Bad as that was it doesn’t compare to this.
I’m not saying Johnson abound stay come what may. Plainly the crisis itself might unseat him as pointed out with Chamberlain.
I am saying that we need to hang back on the stuff that’s gone before.
Churchill in fact was a bit like Johnson in the sense that he was a politician whose reputation was very low in the opinion of many before WWII
Who knows: cometh the hour …? :-)
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Bad as that was it doesn’t compare to this.
I’m not saying Johnson abound stay come what may. Plainly the crisis itself might unseat him as pointed out with Chamberlain.
I am saying that we need to hang back on the stuff that’s gone before.
Churchill in fact was a bit like Johnson in the sense that he was a politician whose reputation was very low in the opinion of many before WWII
Who knows: cometh the hour …? :-)
ichkeria
“Were you not born when Gulf War 1 was in the offing after Saddam invaded Kuwait ?
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Bad as that was it doesn’t compare to this.
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I beg to differ
British servicemen and women were already committed and part of the massive build up of coalition troops well before she was ousted
Boris has no such dilemma as yet
“Were you not born when Gulf War 1 was in the offing after Saddam invaded Kuwait ?
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Bad as that was it doesn’t compare to this.
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I beg to differ
British servicemen and women were already committed and part of the massive build up of coalition troops well before she was ousted
Boris has no such dilemma as yet
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