War News Part Three

[ichkeria]

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It’s back despite popular demand

Again I apologise for no link
And also for swearing at a mod in Russian (!)
Possibly an AB first.
It was for me at any rate
The Ukraine Air Force has been active overnight and this morning downing three Russian Sukhoi fighter jets and losing one Mig

[sandra4444]

Putin appears to be blaming the UK for him not to be able to access his meatballs from Ikea. He's going to get really upset if Macs pull out their 800 outlets.

[davebro]

some reports say that Putin is suffering from terminal bowel cancer - fingers crossed!

[lankeela]

I vaguely remember my dad saying they felt sorry for Russian soldiers in WW2 because they had no food and no warm clothing or protective equipment and their commanders were still sending them into battle. Seems nothing has changed.

[sandra4444]

I said from the very beginning of this invasion, Putin is getting on in years and depression can set in regardless of who and what you are, or how much money you have.

If he does have health problems this also can add to deeper depression and reckless actions, the latter is what we are seeing. Very dangerous indeed.

A military strategist also said yesterday that he can't believe the simple mistake they've made regarding that convoy.

[Khandro]

sandra: The Ruskies are maybe making the same mistake with that tank convoy that three Roman legions made in "The Battle of Teutoberg Forest"....... From Wikipedia;

//The Roman forces were not marching in combat formation, and there were also large numbers of camp-followers. As they entered the forest they found the track narrow and muddy; according to Dio Cassius a violent storm had also arisen. He also writes that Varus neglected to send out advance reconnaissance parties.

The line of march was dangerously stretched out – estimates are that it was more than 15 km (9 miles), and was perhaps as long as 20 km (12 miles). It was then suddenly attacked by Germanic warriors who were carrying some light swords, large lances and spears that came with short and narrow blades, so sharp and warrior friendly that they could be used as required. The Germanic warriors surrounded the entire Roman army and rained down javelins on the intruders.//

[sandra4444]

Thanks for the heads up / History information. If I recall the Germans made a big mistake during I think WW2. Invading in the middle of winter and thousands froze to death. Not that into history but I do remember reading something.

[goodgoalie]

...and Napoleon

[Gromit]

Soldiers win battles, logistics win wars.”
- General Pershing, on the Western Front during WWI.

He was right. And that is why the Russian invasion is faltering. The Russians are crap at logistics. They can quickly move heavy weapons around Russia using the rail system. But once at the border they have to rely on roads that are not safe and are slow. Their supply lines are stretched, with food and fuel running out. They are using paper maps instead of geo-satellites positioning. The Ukrainians have simply taken down road signs. To the north of Kyiv two major bridges have been blown up by the Ukrainians, halting that convoy.

[jim360]

The mistake in WWII was probably starting the invasion of Russia in the first place, but certainly being overambitious. I would have to re-read my history but I'm fairly sure at one point there was a debate over whether to go for Moscow, or for the rich oilfields of Southern USSR and the Caucasus region. And Donbas, which is sadly the scene of the today's War... but, in any case, by not really committing to either of these fully, the Nazis ended up achieving neither.

It also turned out that the Soviet manpower was many times higher than estimated, so that despite their huge early losses, the Soviet Army ended up stronger after the invasion than it had been before. In the event, I think the German advance came within around 10 miles of Moscow, but never any further; had that been the initial objective, rather than the oilfields, then who knows how things might have turned out? It was a close-run thing.