I don’t know why we bother interviewing these people.
I’m all for getting a different perspective on an issue, but these people are grotesque and really offer an insight only into their own complexes.
Particularly awful was Natalya Nariochnitskaya on Newsnight just before the invasion ranting about Ukrainian “Nayzees”
Then you hear people like Yeltsin’s foreign minister Kozyrev, and he could just as easily be an EU minister.
It’s scary what Russia has become in the space of 25 years