Is Anyone Watching Sergei Lavrov On Sky News?

[ToraToraTora]

what a load of deluded twaddle! It takes a certain amount of brass neck to come out with that level of BS!

[davebro]

this?

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-lavrov-turkey-peace-talks-putin-nuclear-live-updates-12541713

[jim360]

A question I wish I knew the answer to is whether he *knows* he's speaking BS, or whether he genuinely believes what he's saying. Perhaps some mixture of the two: it's presumably easier to justify lying and propaganda if the underlying cause is "just".

[douglas9401]

Deluded twaddle is the language of the politician.

[ichkeria]

“ A question I wish I knew the answer to is whether he *knows* he's speaking BS, or whether he genuinely believes what he's saying”

I ask myself that all the time.
Plainly he himself knows full well it’s nonsense as he’s been in the job for 20+ years. And in his position he must have the real perspective
As you go down the food chain tho it becomes less clear

[ToraToraTora]

fair enough dougie but it's been taken to a new level here!

[Sqad]

Goebbels in WW2, Blair and Chemical Fred in the Iraq War , it's a weapon of war, called propaganda and it has surprising support depending upon which side you are on.

What do you expect him to say TTT...." your husbands and sons are dying, but it is for a useless war?"

[ToraToraTora]

on shelling the maternity ward "there where no women and children there and it was being used by the military!" - un effing believable!

[tomus42]

I can't watch more than about a minute of it when this bloke comes on. It makes me too angry.

[royfromaus]

Chemical Fred


LOL LOL

[Paul22118]

A retired foreign office person of my acquaintance once told me that whilst visiting Russia many years ago, he was present at a meeting with the then foreign secretary of USSR, one named Gromyko. During the short meeting he apparently used one word many, many times - that word was 'niet'. Little changes in Russian politics just the faces.

[bednobs]

is chemical fred that "there are no allied troops here" (as a line of allied tanks drive behind him) man?

[ToraToraTora]

it was Chemical Ali (who became known as Comical Ali)

[ichkeria]

Anyway I’m sure canary will still be supporting Norwich tonight and deploring the inevitable “Abramovich” chants.
I’m fairness i can understand that: what was unforgivable was to do it during the clapping at Burnley at the weekend

[ichkeria]

Sorry that was the wrong one of 2000 threads ;-)

[Peter Pedant]

// the maternity ward with no women and children and it was being used instead by the military!" - un effing believable!//

no completely predictable AND has been frequently used before

1940 My aud da' as M.O. in Schorisse ( forrin ) - "Dont put a cross on it, the Huns will just bomb it!" from his C.O. He did ( mark it) and one of the troopers said - "all that happened is that everyone went there". English wounded on one side of the aisle and Germans on the other.

[Peter Pedant]

yeah chemical fred was chemical Ali
Was he the one who said - - I gas you! OR
I wont gas you but I could!

There was also Dr Germ and Mrs Anthrax. - even as an ex porton lab rat I could tell them how to do it - - they didnt. They had no biological ability at all

BUT - as we know - Russian does ( chemical )

[237SJ]

That man's completely deluded and brainwashed. Reminds me of Baghdad Bob in the Saddam Hussein regime.

[bednobs]

^^^^ thanks yes, that's the " no tanks" one

[ichkeria]

They're all over the place on the hospital bombing.
Lavrov was actually admitting they had deliberately targeted it.
Later Russia's foreign ministry denied they'd hit it at all.