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And Some Are Worried About Cake And Curry?
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Time to get a ruddy grip. Starting with this:
//Energy bills to hit £3,000 in October, warns Scottish Power boss who fears 10M homes will be unable to afford heating this winter - as fire chief says spate of blazes is due to people burning wood to save money//
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//Energy bills to hit £3,000 in October, warns Scottish Power boss who fears 10M homes will be unable to afford heating this winter - as fire chief says spate of blazes is due to people burning wood to save money//
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My regularly updated bill from Scottish Gas suggests that the £3000 figure may be well wide of the mark and an invention by journalists instructed to panic their flock or possibly a device to make the power companies look like Robin Hood when the bills land and aren't as predicted.
It's a touch higher than last year so far but I'm not exactly reaching for the whisky and revolver.
It's a touch higher than last year so far but I'm not exactly reaching for the whisky and revolver.
YMB - As I have pointed out before, and will do again, comparing one event as being less serious than another does not lessen the seriousness of the first event.
Yes energy bills are serious, but so is the possibility that our leaders and our Opposition are lying to us, and you cannot play down one by playing up the other, it's poor debating and it does not stand up to scrutiny.
Yes energy bills are serious, but so is the possibility that our leaders and our Opposition are lying to us, and you cannot play down one by playing up the other, it's poor debating and it does not stand up to scrutiny.
YMB - // I do see where you are coming from AH.
But try telling that to someone on the bones of their ass. //
As opposed to telling them that 'Partygate' is less important?
Why would they care?
If the man next door has a broken leg, and I have an impacted wisdom tooth, thinking that he is probably suffering more than me does not help my pain one iota, so why would anyone wind me up by telling me he is 'worse off'?
Like I care!!!!!
But try telling that to someone on the bones of their ass. //
As opposed to telling them that 'Partygate' is less important?
Why would they care?
If the man next door has a broken leg, and I have an impacted wisdom tooth, thinking that he is probably suffering more than me does not help my pain one iota, so why would anyone wind me up by telling me he is 'worse off'?
Like I care!!!!!
//As opposed to telling them that 'Partygate' is less important?
Why would they care?//
I cant believe you wrote that. One is annoyance the other is directly affecting peoples lives and pockets, of course they care more about the item affecting them directly. You may trouser a good salary, as I do, and dont care about the increase but I have some compassion for those struggling.
Why would they care?//
I cant believe you wrote that. One is annoyance the other is directly affecting peoples lives and pockets, of course they care more about the item affecting them directly. You may trouser a good salary, as I do, and dont care about the increase but I have some compassion for those struggling.
tigger - // Fair enough but why not keep them at pre-April prices? //
Because they are a business, not a charity.
When you are a major conglomerate, you focus entirely on your profits because that is what pleases your share holders and encourages them to invest more money, so you can make more money for them.
The entire upper strata of energy company management is bonus driven - the bigger the profits, the bigger bonuses the managers get, and that does not make them minded to reduce those profits by one penny.
There is a moral dimension here, as you and I are aware, and the managers are probably aware of it too.
The difference is, they have the built-in ability to completely ignore the massive misery their policies create.
That's why they don;t question what they do, but we do, because we are not like them.
Which is why we are not managers.
And let's at least be grateful for that.
Because they are a business, not a charity.
When you are a major conglomerate, you focus entirely on your profits because that is what pleases your share holders and encourages them to invest more money, so you can make more money for them.
The entire upper strata of energy company management is bonus driven - the bigger the profits, the bigger bonuses the managers get, and that does not make them minded to reduce those profits by one penny.
There is a moral dimension here, as you and I are aware, and the managers are probably aware of it too.
The difference is, they have the built-in ability to completely ignore the massive misery their policies create.
That's why they don;t question what they do, but we do, because we are not like them.
Which is why we are not managers.
And let's at least be grateful for that.
//Fair enough but why not keep them at pre-April prices?//
And who would pay the fuel companies? Remember it is the wholesale price that has gone up and that directly affects the companies that sell you fuel.
//How does it work when some energy companies are reporting huge profits //
It is the energy companies up front, Shell BP etc who made good profits not the resellers such as OVO, Scottish Power etc. They have to buy at market rates and so have to pass it on. And as for the main energy companies remember they make money on other things that contribute to that profit. A profit, which if you have a pension, you are partaking in.
You should be questioning the green levies and VAT first. They have no benefit
And who would pay the fuel companies? Remember it is the wholesale price that has gone up and that directly affects the companies that sell you fuel.
//How does it work when some energy companies are reporting huge profits //
It is the energy companies up front, Shell BP etc who made good profits not the resellers such as OVO, Scottish Power etc. They have to buy at market rates and so have to pass it on. And as for the main energy companies remember they make money on other things that contribute to that profit. A profit, which if you have a pension, you are partaking in.
You should be questioning the green levies and VAT first. They have no benefit
YMB - // //As opposed to telling them that 'Partygate' is less important?
Why would they care?//
I cant believe you wrote that. //
Fair enough - I can't believe that you think that anyone struggling with their energy bills would care about your perceived inequality in the seriousness of the two issues.
// One is annoyance the other is directly affecting peoples lives and pockets, of course they care more about the item affecting them directly. //
No, one is not an 'annoyance' - it speaks directly to the honesty and integrity of our government and our opposition.
If we can't trust them to be truthful with us, and they lie when caught out, what else are they lying about?
And how fit are they to legislate energy bills and cap price increases, as on the government can?
Can we trust them to be fair and honest there?
That's why 'party / beer gate' is a lot more than 'an annoyance'.
// You may trouser a good salary, as I do, and dont care about the increase but I have some compassion for those struggling. //
I don't trouser any salary, I am retired and living on a pension, so I may well have to make some adjustments in the coming months,
Why would they care?//
I cant believe you wrote that. //
Fair enough - I can't believe that you think that anyone struggling with their energy bills would care about your perceived inequality in the seriousness of the two issues.
// One is annoyance the other is directly affecting peoples lives and pockets, of course they care more about the item affecting them directly. //
No, one is not an 'annoyance' - it speaks directly to the honesty and integrity of our government and our opposition.
If we can't trust them to be truthful with us, and they lie when caught out, what else are they lying about?
And how fit are they to legislate energy bills and cap price increases, as on the government can?
Can we trust them to be fair and honest there?
That's why 'party / beer gate' is a lot more than 'an annoyance'.
// You may trouser a good salary, as I do, and dont care about the increase but I have some compassion for those struggling. //
I don't trouser any salary, I am retired and living on a pension, so I may well have to make some adjustments in the coming months,
Some Are Worried About Cake And Curry? and maybe petrol and heating oil prices ?
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"Sorry, But for You, Oil Trades at $250 a Barrel"
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"Sorry, But for You, Oil Trades at $250 a Barrel"
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