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... the problem's getting worse.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61480898
Lower the cost of raw ingredients such as meat, chicken, veg, salads, rice etc., and increase it on sweets, chocs, crisps, ready meals, high saturated fat crap.
I've been in the UK now for over 30 years now, and the changes I've seen regarding food and it's availability...and the type of food available...have been massive. Admittedly, it was a form of culture shock. And disappointing...where were all my familiar foods?
But...there were few takeaways...maybe just fish and chips and Indian. People didn't eat in the street. People were slim. But as the U.K. became a foodie culture, more cheap food made with cheap ingredients became available, maybe more discretionary income was also a factor...and folks got bigger. Most people haven't a clue how cheap food is made, or what's in it...never mind what it does to their bodies.
I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all solution. There are too many individual variables.
There seems to be a whole downward trend in our culture. People don’t seem to care that they’re fat or scruffy - and swearing has become to norm. What happened to self-respect?
I blame elasticated waists and so-called sports clothing that is never used for sport or exercise.
With a rigid waistband and button up shirts you knew when you were putting on weight (same with fitted dresses/skirts/trousers for the ladies).
These days clothes grow with you and before you can blink you are three stone heavier
You are spot on pasta @17.58 People have not got a clue about how cheap food is made or the rubbish in it.
Sadly the parents that should be educating their kids on whats good or bad have no idea either because they've eaten the same rubbish for the last 20 yrs, so there's little chance of reversing it.

Its pretty obvious that Boris don't care to much what he downs either by the look of him.
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I don't think it's the last 20 years. More like 40. I remember when I was a kid in the 80s - that's when the explosion of ready meals and cheap take-aways really took off. Many many teenagers now have parents who don't remember a time before fast cheap food.
SP I totally agree with you.
I have said many times that its the older gen that is to blame for the current situation on many levels not just obesity
Education on health in school, we do not teach enough of life skills.
RH, that timeframe coincides with the necessity for both husband and wife's income to be taken in to account when applying for a mortgage; the rise and rise of the big name fast food chains; the boom in car ownership; the commute to work that made it impossible to walk to work everyday; the necessity to drive the kids to school so both parents could get to work on time.
Times were a-changing.
Even the simple potato seems to have taken a dive. They all seem to be on the verge of going rotten within a day of purchase or start rooting, if not already on purchase.

I've noticed over the last 3/4 weeks that supermarkets have started to put the 2.5kl bags into bags that you are unable to view the potato.
Instead of clear plastic bag, its plastic with some great artwork of the perfect potato.
They obviously don't want you to see what your getting.
We (UK) eat too many carbs. If you travel around the world you see that people in different parts eat their 'own' carbs but we (UK) have incorporated carbohydrates from all over the world (same as the US)
I just stand far away from people, very slimming, plus I don't have to listen to any condescending comments if I don't fit 'their' ideal vision of the human body.

I'll tell you, living can be hard work for the imperfect.
Further - you go to Brazil, Argentina etc - their diet is full of red meat, cheese and they love their desserts but their main carbohydrates seem to be wheat based. You don't see fat people there. India - main carb is rice, same with the Far East. Italy, France - wheat again (pasta/bread) In the Uk we have incorporated every type of carbohydrates into our diet so we are scoffing potato, pizza dough, rice, pasta, bread etc
^Sorry, I base my opinions on what I have seen and I have spent a lot of time in South America. You just don't see the fat people walking down the road that you see here and in the US (and your link doesn't work)
We can do this all night if you like.

https://www.oecd.org/els/health-systems/obesityandtheeconomicsofpreventionfitnotfat-italykeyfacts.htm

There are fat people everywhere.
Yes we could but if you have no personal experience, you can google all night long. Good luck with that.
Obrigada
There are many, many more bariatric operations in France than in the UK, maybe that's their secret.

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