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gulliver1 | 07:00 Fri 24th Jun 2022 | News
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The people have spoken, Boris and his party have lost two important by elections. Boris's own MPs were too frightened to get rid of him so the public have taken over and are going to do it for them.
Also the resignation of Oliver Dowden sent the Tories a message.
No Tory seat is safe anymore. These By election results will seep like poison through the Tory parties blood stream The exuses will start to be heard . But statistics are hard to ignore. This could be the beginning of the end of power for the Tories for decades. I hope.
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In British politics there are now two blocs, the Tories and the anti-Tories. Take Tiverton. In the last two elections, Labour came second there. But in this by-election, they lost their deposit as their vote share dropped by 16 per cent. This isn’t because voters in rural Devon are particularly unpersuaded by Keir Starmer but because anti-Tory voters...
11:44 Fri 24th Jun 2022
Btw TTT, if history is important, take a look at the relevance of votes of no confidence in Tory leaders since the 1980’s.
None survived such a vote more than 6 months on and Johnson had the worst possible in relation to percentages of own MP’s against.
You’re welcome to the history lesson.
Fatti, I'm under no illusions, I think Boris probably will end up going. The Tories are not sentimental, if they think they need a new leader to win then they'll not hesitate to dump him. The problem is, for me at least who can replace him? I don't have any idea myself, I don't trust Ellwood or Tugendhat and the incumbent front bench would be seen as similarly tainted to Boris. The only one I can think of as an outside chance would be Penny Mordaunt
I think you might be onto somethoing with Mordaunt, TTT. Very good here putting Rayner in her place:
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// The problem is, for me at least who can replace him? I don't have any idea myself, I don't trust Ellwood or Tugendhat and the incumbent front bench would be seen as similarly tainted to Boris.//

For what reasons? Ellwood and Tugendhat are reliable, trustworthy ex Servicemen so at least have a sense of duty and morals. Ellwood distinguished himself when the policeman was stabbed at Parliament so I’d trust him to have my back and stand and fight, not skink off and leave it to the minions to carry the can like Johnson does.They certainly would uphold public office far better than Johnson, but then so would an alley cat.
Tell me what qualifications Johnson had prior to high office?
A journalist sacked for telling lies who became a politician, later sacked for lying.
The bumbling fool who became popular because he’d wave a Union flag on a death slide just doesn’t make it as a political figure with gravitas, but to you he obviously does.
yeah GG, that's a serious kicking! Note how Rayner puts her mask on half way through to hide her embarrassment.
"For what reasons? ": Ellwood is my MP, I've been to his house, cooked his summer BBQ, my wife and I actually partnered him and his wife in a party quiz fund raiser. To answer your question, I know him, personally! Generally ex military men are programmed, blinkered, they do not do lateral thinking, they make good leaders until non standard crises crop up.
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//"For what reasons? ": Ellwood is my MP, I've been to his house, cooked his summer BBQ, my wife and I actually partnered him and his wife in a party quiz fund raiser. To answer your question, I know him, personally! Generally ex military men are programmed, blinkered, they do not do lateral thinking, they make good leaders until non standard crises crop up.//

Lol, in contrast to the steely-eyed, forward-thinking and thoroughly honest paragon of virtue with honed leadership skills and a degree in crisis management that Johnson is you mean? Pmsl.

Ellwood was heroic when a non-standard crisis popped up when a policeman was getting stabbed to death.
I know who I’d rather have in my trench when the excrement is colliding with the air conditioning!
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12.16 TTT .The Boris school of radicalisation sure worked on you.
Try and sway attention of the real subject onto something or someone else hoping it might go away . In Boris's own words it's called throwing a dead cat on the table.
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TTT. No matter how hard you try to ignore what this post is really about ,the statiscs are still there .
Your hero Boris and his Nasty Party, took a good kicking and hammering Yesterday .Not Angela Raynor
In British politics there are now two blocs, the Tories and the anti-Tories. Take Tiverton. In the last two elections, Labour came second there. But in this by-election, they lost their deposit as their vote share dropped by 16 per cent.

This isn’t because voters in rural Devon are particularly unpersuaded by Keir Starmer but because anti-Tory voters quickly realised that the Liberal Democrats had the better chance of unseating the Tories and so turned to them. In Wakefield, we also saw tactical voting – albeit on a less dramatic scale. The Lib Dem vote halved and the party also lost their deposit and got fewer votes than Richard Tice's Reform UK.

At the moment, the polls suggest that the left block of the electorate – Labour, Liberal Democrats and Greens – is around 60 per cent. If these voters vote tactically, the results will be devastating for the Tories.

The Spectator

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Khandro 12.44 Spot on.
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In fact Khandro you are so spot on, you deserve B/A.
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The Tory/Con mps are up against it now , if Boris knows they are plotting to oust him , he is going to make life difficult for them and if they don't get rid of Boris before the next G/E the public will get rid of them, and him .
'plotting to oust him'

What method of 'ousting' would they use, Gulli?
Ha ha, i wonder if carrie will have a departing party. :))))
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Think they will have to carry Carrie kicking and screaming into the pickfords van.
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//Ha ha, i wonder if carrie will have a departing party. :)))//

She’s fond of ABBA, she could play One Of Us, the lyrics are very apt:

My picture clear
Everything seemed so easy
And so I dealt you the blow
One of us had to go
Now it's different, I want you to know
One of us is crying, one of us is lying

Pmsl.

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13,23 Fatticusinch. Carrie will probably leave Downing St, sitting on top of a pickfords van clutching the crown jewels and a couple of rolls of wallpaper singing ....."The winner takes it all".

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