3 Tories In Red Wall Constituencies Consider Defection To Labour

[Gromit]

After Wakefield, 3 Tory MPs with small majorities in the north are in advanced talks with the Labour Party about defecting.

The story is in the Telegraph, behind a pay wall, so sorry no link.

Labour should not accept them, they will win the seats away. But more evidence that all is not well in the Conservative Party.

[Gromit]

Got yer a link

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/exclusive-three-red-wall-conservatives-in-talks-to-defect-to-labour/ar-AAYVEK7

[naomi24]

It’s evidence that they are desperate to hang on to
a seat in parliament … any seat. Principle? Pah! Not in their vocabulary.

[tomus42]

Ideally they'd be refused membership of Labour on the grounds that they're Tories who've spent the whole time since they were elected supporting Boris Johnson.

That's not how politics works though, so if the story is true they'll just defect.

[youngmafbog]

I always have a problem with this, whichever way the move.

Anyone changing to another party from the one they were elected under (and that includes Independents) should have a by-election.

[naomi24]

Yes, they should, YMB. Absolutely.

[youngmafbog]

try this:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/exclusive-three-red-wall-conservatives-in-talks-to-defect-to-labour/ar-AAYVEK7

[10ClarionSt]

Labour will win most, if not all of these seats back. Don't need any defectors.

[davebro]

At the time of the GE it was widely stated that the red wall votes were only "lent" to the Tories. Loans need to be repaid & those Tories elected to those seats should have realised that. Damn savages...

[ToraToraTora]

when did you become a Gullivista Gromit! PMSL!

[Gromit]

Agreed 10C,
Labour will win these seats back without accepting defectors. And proper Labour candidates are better than turncoat Tories whose long term loyalty would be suspect.
But Starmer will probably go for the short term win and accept them, like he did with Conservative MP Christian Wakeford who joined the Labour benches in a publicity stunt just before PMQs in January.

[Gromit]

// when did you become a Gullivista Gromit! PMSL! //

Your incontinence problem isn’t getting any better.

[THECORBYLOON]

If you want to post a link to a story behind a paywall and you can find no other source or don't want to trawl for it, see if it's on the Wayback Machine internet archive website.

The link for this one is here,

https://web.archive.org/web/20220627200825/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/06/27/exclusive-three-red-wall-conservatives-talks-defect-labour/

If the link isn't there, you can add it to their database and it will create a new link.

I have done that before and it works for the Telegraph to get access but not for The Times where the need to subscribe pops up still.

[Gromit]

Thanks 10C but I found the msn link immediately and posted it right away, which reproduced the DT article verbatim.

[FatticusInch]

naomi24
//It’s evidence that they are desperate to hang on to
a seat in parliament … any seat. Principle? Pah! Not in their vocabulary.//

Unprincipled Tories in parliament?? Now way!

[naomi24]

Precisely. I hope this bunch know where the job centre is.

[Gromit]

The MPs (from both Parties) who defected to ChangeUK before the last election were not re-elected.

[gulliver1]

Naomi 10 39 Precisely, thats why they jumped ship if they stay with Boris , they will need to know where the local job centre is. lol

[naomi24]

Keep up, gully.

[jno]

to read Telegraph stories that are behind a paywall, press F5 and then quickly press ESC.

[tomus42]

I completely agree about the need for a by election when sitting MPs change sides.

Pedants will say that we vote for the person, and being pedants, they are of course strictly correct, but we all know that we vote for a party.