Humiliation For Prince Andrew

[dave50]

Following the coffin in civvies after not being allowed to wear his military uniform, he looks completely out of place.

[zebo]

//It ought to be said in Edward's defence that military life is not everyone's cup of tea.//

I've always said that it must have taken a lot of guts to go to his father and say he was leaving the Marines, better to admit it than to go through all the training and then leave.

[Canary42]

I agree with sqad

[burlyshirley1]

I think he is being allowed to wear his uniform for the actual funeral though, but Harry still can't.

[FatticusInch]

Sqad
//Both Andrew and Harry have been serving officers in H.M forces, both in theatres of war and rightly decorated.

It is wrong that they should not be in uniform.//

I do agree to a certain extent and believe in other circumstances they’d be allowed to, however it has been decreed amongst the Royal Family themselves that the protocol is that they do not.
Their own rules, they must abide I guess?

[Sqad]

Fatti....indeed.
But I think it is petty and small minded.

[Barmaid]

Burlyshirley - I understand he will be allowed to wear his uniform for the vigil before the funeral, but not the actual funeral.

[FatticusInch]

Ken4155
^ //Perhaps he chose the Marines to prove something to someone/himself? No shame in being an ordinary foot-soldier.//

Yes, I believe so.
If memory serves he decided to have a go as no Royal had served in the RM up until then as far as I am aware and still officially hasn’t.

[FatticusInch]

Their rules Sqad, agreed by all including Her Majesty herself I believe, prior to current events.

[jno]

there are different and conflicting protocols here. Royal family protocol is that everyone should dress up as a five-star general. Military protocol says if you can't hack it you don't get in. PR protocol says if you're caught canoodling with underage girls you should be left in the library with a glass of whisky and a revolver.

The compromises they've worked out are probably for the best.

[FatticusInch]

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a41169257/prince-harry-not-granted-permission-wear-military-uniform-queen-elizabeth-funeral/

[davebro]

If Harry (or whomever) thought - to hell with the protocol I'm gonna wear my uniform anyway. Would the bouncers have stopped him at the door?

[FatticusInch]

That’s why it’s called protocol…..somebody would have asked him to change.
The Queen was a stickler for protocol and tradition, I’m sure she left strict instructions and wouldn’t have had it any other way.

[DTCwordfan]

One missing I think, where was Sarah Chatto, Princess Margaret's daughter and the only niece of the Queen?

[Ken4155]

I think she is expected to attend the funeral.

[Peter Pedant]

so do I - - she's dead isnt she?
oh oh - Lady Sarah Chatto, yes indeedy

Well in the Church of England you an only be buried once, so what was the Archbish yoddling today?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14672803/what-is-the-russian-kontakian-of-the-departed-and-what-are-the-words/

It is a Greek thing and Phil the Greek wanted it. His muvva (philz) was a right one I can tell you - and so Justin Welby DD went through with it, looking a bit flustered I thought.

At least there are no choirboys singing ( so Andrew can go back in) And men ( thurifers) thurifing thuribles- it is an incense thing

worlds biggest thurible, St james of Compostela - needs five men to swing it

[zebo]

I never realised how tall Harry is!

[zebo]

Prince Philip's mother was a quite remarkable woman, I recall seeing something about her on TV when he died .

[sandyRoe]

The thuribles in Santiago de Compostela look to be about 6 foot tall. Last time I was there it needed 6 men to get one moving.
It's swung now at the end of most pilgrim masses. If you want to be sure of seeing it in motion you can pay a fee of €400 .
In times past it was probably used at the start of a service to mask the stench of the unwashed pilgrims.

[andres]

This is wrong. Andrew served his country well and he should have been allowed to wear his uniform.

[douglas9401]

Maybe after all this time they couldn't get the sweat stains out.