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[gulliver1]

Keir Starmer says "I will abolish the House of Lords" to restore trust in Politics . We will replace it with a new a new "Elected Chamber" all this comes after a series of rows between MPs over peerages made By Johnson after he made a number of controversial appointments including his friend Evgeny Lebedev who owns the Evening Standard also Charlotte Owen a young Assistant of Boris's aged 29. Good luck on that one . SIR !

[barry1010]

No member of the House of Lords can sit in the House of Commons nor vote in parliamentary elections - Stamer is not a member of the HoL.

Some MPs refuse a seat in the HoL because of the restrictions.

[tomus42]

Apparently this is true, and will be in Labour's next election manifesto.

Abolish and replace it with an elected upper chamber. Good move, and a vote winner I'd say. Should have been done years ago.

[youngmafbog]

Fine coming from someone who pushed the Nonce Finder General into it.

I believe it when I see it.

[Old_Geezer]

Doesn't the HoL need to pass any legislation to disband the HoL ?

[davebro]

//Doesn't the HoL need to pass any legislation to disband the HoL ?//

Yes - do turkeys vote for Xmas? The current arrangement is beyond ridiculous.

[THECORBYLOON]

There is a voluntary convention in the House of Lords, the "Salisbury Convention" whereby the Lords will not oppose legislation which was part of the Government's manifesto, which this propposal would likely be.

There are also a couple of Parliament Acts which, under certain circumstances, would allow the Lords to delay legislation but not prevent it becoming law and it could be passed without the Lords' consent.

https://guidetoprocedure.parliament.uk/collections/FtUCoQZu/parliament-acts

[ToraToraTora]

OG: "Doesn't the HoL need to pass any legislation to disband the HoL ?" - nope, Parliament Act, they could delay it a year at the most. However the main reason they won't abolish it is because it's the MPs OAP home and they all hope to be kicked upstairs someday to enjoy it's privileges and meddle in the activities of the elected house.

[JDavis]

Seems a bit ageist to me. Where else can these poor old people go for food and warmth?

[Canary42]

Pure vote-catching, which may rebound on him. How I wish Labour could find a decent leader, the only reason we have a Terrible Tory government is because nobody has put up a sufficiently charismatic opposition. I know it's wrong, but charisma rules these days (an attitude arising from Reality TV and its voting propensities.

[Peter Pedant]

Is that Keir Starmer himself has a Knighthood.

I think it is a standard hand-out to anyone who is a law officer of state - Attorney, Solicitor General
unless you are AWFUL as Allison Saunders was

Times today - head of the Serious Fraud Office has been thrown under a bus. ( she wdnt go volunarily)